re: Underhill says next 2 games could determine firings

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If kellen really is that bad you get a high pick and you can sell the next coach on that.

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If the new coach drafted a player that at least would see the field that alone is an upgrade.

Go get Tomlin and right the ship. He won’t win 5 SBs, but he will right the ship and can easily eke out 1 or 2 over a decade.

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but Gayle has a lot vested in Paris becoming a home away from home for the Saints and doesn’t want to be embarrassed

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This says more about our ownership than probably anything else.

Basically she's OK with running two non-serious franchises and hoping for a .500 record, but if you embarass her in front of her fancy Paris friends then she's gonna be super mad!

The stuff about Loomis and Co not wanting to fire Dennis Allen also tells me alot. I used to think it was because they were stupid, but now I think its more because they just didnt want to have to actually work and do a coaching search.

The overall state of New Orleans sports feels like an Adam Sandler movie. The opening scene would be Gayle (played by Kathy Bates) telling Ole Tom (played by Henry Winkler) that he's signing the paperwork for a show horse and then, woops! You actually signed an amended will that cuts out your whole family. Oh, and also you bought a basketball team.

Door #3 for me! This is already a lost season with their record and injuries. Get a top 5 pick and draft Simmons or if you're high enough trade back a little as Smith and some QBs will go first as we don't need those positions right now and get Simmons/Moore/top OT

Moore coaches like a rookie coach, which he is. Loomis is a veteran GM who has proven that he is terrible at his job. Fire Loomis, retain Moore, and build through the draft instead of signing washed up injury bugs.

Gayle doesn't care enough to have an independent thought on the issue. So if she is saying things publicly it is because people she trusts are expressing concern over Moore. Very likely former players, maybe some current veteran players, and people in her social circle who are Saints fans and expressing the frustrations on behalf of all fans.

She doesn't know football and doesn't care about knowing football. But she does want to please the city and the fans. If people with influence for her are talking...she will listen.

I don't think the short hook is a factor, but if Mickey isn't let go, if I'm a coach I'm questioning why only Moore was held accountable and not the guy largely responsible for the personnel on the field.

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I agree that firing Moore after 1.5 to 2 seasons is going to hurt the NOLA NFL franchise in the long run, but, this franchise has made its fair share of bad decisions in the past and there's reason to believe will do so again.

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Agree with this take. Everyone around the league knew that this was a rebuilding roster job, and is most likely why many potential coaches were not interested. So, if you go out and ONLY fire Moore while in the middle of the rebuild, it will be looked down on by rising candidates, and you will have to latch on to desperate people with no other opportunities.

But if you make major changes in the front office, including at the GM/player personnel positions, and the new guy decides to move on from Moore; then that will be looked at the new team just wanting to work with their guy and may not have such a negative impact on future coach searches

Solid points. I’d add from a cap perspective we’re a lot cleaner than we were when Moore took the job.

Actually revamped front office, Shough not being ruined this year, high draft pick, improving situation cap wise starts to look more attractive than where we were.