re: From Larry Leo Post - Coach either blowing smoke or we're going to try for Baker

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And all of those great picks are gonna rot if we don't have a Qb to lead them when Brees is gone

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Perfect post.

Look at Denver.

Having a great team doesn't mean shite if you don't have a good QB.

Philly is lucky that the only QB's in the playoffs this year worth anything played each other, and the other lost on a fluke play.

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Giving up that much when you have Drew on the roster is stupid. If he falls to us fine, but we need to add pieces that can help us win now.

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This, this this.

I like Mayfield and wish we could get him, but it would just cost too many picks.

If we were just coming off another 7-5 season, sure. But this year changed things, showing that the Brees window is still open. I think the best thing to do is go all-in to have two more shots at deep playoff runs.

Gotcha. Misread it

Would most likely take this years first, third and next years second along with a player to move up to pick 4 to draft him.

You can be a successful team without a QB. You can survive until you get that great one.


Fricking Jacksonville got to the AFC Championship game with fricking Blake Bortles. Minnesota got to the NFC with Case Keenum. Could you imagine if either of those teams had a guy like, say, Alex Smith? They probably would have won or in Minnesota's case been in the game. But Smith isn't a star. He's solid. If you have a great team you don't need to sell out to get a franchise QB.

Payton is a former QB, he likes to talk to all of the QBs every year and has done so every year he has ben here. Just because he likes someone does not mean we are going to actively go after that person.

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The kid is Drew minus the maturity.

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Like if Drew and Sean had a love child.

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Can someone elaborate? Brees messed up Grayson?

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Brees is unusually intelligent even as quarterbacks go. He actually went to Purdue because of the field of study that was being offered rather than Kentucky. He understands detail better than most and likes to hit you with it. I saw a video one time of him and Payton together going over the game plan and offensive strategy which included all types of audible contingencies and understanding placement in formations.....it was mind blowing almost like a foreign language that only Payton, Brees and Carmichael understand

Depending on what we do in free agency.. we really won’t have many or any holes to fill in the draft.

If we sign Kelemente.. OL is done. Maybe a late pick.
If we sign Okafor DL is mostly done, could draft a pass rush specialist.

With Anzalone and Klein healthy we don’t need anyone but could draft a LB that’s a difference maker

With Breaux possibly healthy we are good at corner.

If we don’t sign Vaccaro we could draft a safety in mid rounds.

If we cut Fleener we could look at drafting a TE early

We don’t need a RB.

We could look to add a slot receiver

I say all this to point out that depending on what we do in free agency to address any of these needs, we really won’t need to have a huge draft to repeat our success this year. And drafting Mayfield provides the potential for a decades worth of success with all of this young talent