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re: ESPN's Seth Walder thinks the Saints lost the Tyree Wilson trade with Las Vegas
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:48 am to L.A.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:48 am to L.A.
Any realistic person realize the highest probability is that this doesn’t work out.
That’s why it didn’t cost much and why you get a guy with draft pedigree so cheap.
That’s why it didn’t cost much and why you get a guy with draft pedigree so cheap.
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Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:49 am to Zzyzx
quote:Around 50% make the initial 53, and only 6.4% become consistent starters.
What’s the percentage a 5th rounder even makes the team? Has to be 50% at best.
Wilson definitely has MUCH higher odds of making the team and potentially starting.
The "downside" to this trade is if we want to keep him beyond this year we have to pay him, so the better he plays the more expensive that will be, but worth it to find a young edge since those are hard to get.
Maybe best case is he is role player level and signs for $10 mil per tops, or he plays so well we replace Granderson with him so the money washes out a bit.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 8:01 am
Posted on 4/27/26 at 7:58 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Potentially.
Pretty sure if we don't re-sign him, we get a comp pick, too.
I don't see us going for comp picks next year with the amount of cap space we have though. Currently projected for $60+ mil under and likely at least $40ish mil under after an Olave extension (or a way to adjust his contract next year to get to at least that if not $50ish mil).
We are going to be pretty active, more so than this year.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:06 am to L.A.
Wilson is basically our 5th round pick. If we can get him to be a servicable rotational piece, how is that a loss?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:13 am to Proximo
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It’s just like the Penning trade we made. If Staley can unlock something in him, do you think it matters what raiders fans say?
I didn’t say it was a bad trade for us. I checked out their message boards after the trade for their opinion, and their reaction is the same as we had when we traded Penning. Happy to get anything for him. Not one fan was saying they thought they should have gotten more or a higher pick. It’s very telling.
Maybe his skills will translate better in Staley’s scheme.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 8:19 am
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:18 am to L.A.
Would be funny if our 7th round CB selection makes the team.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:18 am to saints5021
quote:
I wonder if him playing the wide 9 standing up would fix that?
I'd be willing try it. I think he's just a slow processor. Many times we saw him get close to the QB but no cigar. If he would just get off the snap, he'd earn more sacks. If you've got a coach who can fix that, it would be the Saints robbing the Raiders.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:22 am to htran90
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I mean the only guy I rather have wanted around that pick is pat coogan since we need a backup c/g and he was available.
There were 3 or 4 people I liked still on the board. Rivers, Abney, Koziol, Wheatley….
Some had Abney with a late 2nd-3rd round grade.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 8:24 am
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:31 am to Townedrunkard
When are you going to get hired?
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:32 am to Raider75
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I'd be willing try it. I think he's just a slow processor. Many times we saw him get close to the QB but no cigar
They alluded to this during the draft after the trade was made. He has poor instincts or awareness. He’d get close to the qb but like you said, miss out on the sack a lot.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 8:33 am
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:37 am to Zzyzx
quote:
We traded a coin flip roster spot for someone who was the 7th pick overall 3 years ago. Seems a worthwhile gamble to me
Who has also shown improvement. Seems like a no brainer to me.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:37 am to SlowFlowPro
yeah at minimum you got a guy that you know can at least play in the NFL and be rotational contributor
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:40 am to Townedrunkard
I meant guys taken after us. Unless there was an option to package both 5 to move up to take abney
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:40 am to Townedrunkard
quote:
Some had Abney with a late 2nd-3rd round grade
I hate post draft when people use this to praise/shite on a pick. I don't really care that draftniks had a guy rated as a second rounder, if he lasted all the way to the 5th, then the entire league has told you they disagree with random internet draft scout.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:41 am to L.A.
Huh
This is essentially giving away nothing.
Moving back two rounds late in the draft to acquire a guy that was drafted high, his contract isn't crazy, and its your greatest position of need.
Guy is an idiot
This is essentially giving away nothing.
Moving back two rounds late in the draft to acquire a guy that was drafted high, his contract isn't crazy, and its your greatest position of need.
Guy is an idiot
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:42 am to BilJ
quote:
I hate post draft when people use this to praise/shite on a pick. I don't really care that draftniks had a guy rated as a second rounder, if he lasted all the way to the 5th, then the entire league has told you they disagree with random internet draft scout.
One of my biggest things. Drives me crazy
We have people on here getting pissy because we "passed on a guy with a 2nd round grade" that got picked in the 5th after we picked someone (or something like that)
He didn't have a 2nd round grade because he didn't get picked in the 2nd round. No team agreed with Mel Kiper or Field Yates
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
quote:
Huh
This is essentially giving away nothing.
Moving back two rounds late in the draft to acquire a guy that was drafted high, his contract isn't crazy, and its your greatest position of need.
Guy is an idiot
Chase Young was drafted 2nd. Lacked production and ability to stay on field for years.
Tyree has 12 sacks in 3 years. Chase had 9. If there's any veteran that can help steer Tyree Wilson into being a better pro, it could be Chase. We lost very little. Its a safe risk with little to gamble.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:53 am to Chad504boy
This is one of my favorite movies of the draft. Whether he sticks around and gets a lot of sacks is beside the point. He’s going to be on the active roster and help in the run stop game. You get a full year tryout for how he is in the locker room and what his issues might be. Raiders might be happy let them go, but that’s just because they’re pissed for having wasted so much draft capital on him. If they picked him in the fifth round three years ago, they’d be happy to have him on the team.
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:54 am to htran90
quote:
I meant guys taken after us. Unless there was an option to package both 5 to move up to take abney
He was taken after us. Abney was on the board at 150.
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 8:54 am
Posted on 4/27/26 at 8:59 am to BilJ
quote:
I don't really care that draftniks had a guy rated as a second rounder, if he lasted all the way to the 5th, then the entire league has told you they disagree with random internet draft scout.
Yea I remember a few years ago, and yiu can look it up, this same thing happened with Amon Ra, he sat for two rounds at the top of the ‘best available’ during the draft. Was suppose to go in the 2nd. Slid to the 4th.
Did the scouts and gms get that one right?
This post was edited on 4/27/26 at 9:05 am
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