bonethug0180

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McShay, Jeremiah, Brooks

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These guys aren't so bad, but man Mayock before he became a GM was so fricking money on his takes. I was sad to see him leave because he was one of the few who was actually extremely knowledgeable and not taking money from the agents to push certain players (which you could tell by the way he harped on many guys not on most "experts" radar and the fact that there wasn't any common agents threads amongst the players he talked about).

Kiper is and has been the biggest idiot of all those draft "expert" idiots. Dude is a fan that does not know the game like someone who has actually been in it does.

He goes off of hope and word of mouth (which around draft time is filled with lies to throw people off) more than anything the player has actually done.

Iirc, he killed us for Michael Thomas (who yes had injuries and went off the deep end, but that's not why he hated Thomas) and that immediately proved to be an idiotic take. I mean I can point to most of our picks and he practically hates the vast majority every year.

Not to mention he is paid to push certain players by certain agents (same as many of these "experts"), so all the more reason not to pay attention to their propaganda bs.

There are so very few actually knowledgeable AND unbiased people that do draft stuff these days. Most are idiots that don't really know the game, on the take, or both.

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They botched the best draft pick in recent years with Zack Baun, which should be a fireable offense in itself.

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This was a Payton/Allen failing, because it was said particularly that they didn't know how to fit him in the scheme, which is a great failing of the DC.

This was ALWAYS Allen's issue was that he does not bend his scheme to the players, rather he tries to bend the players to his scheme, and gets rid of them if they don't fit.

This is also my biggest issue with Payton and the Ryan thing. Ryan came in and made a scheme to fit the players and we had a top 5 defense a year after having the worst defense ever, then Payton mandated running the Seattle Cover 3, which Ryan neither had familiarity with nor the players to run it. And that was Payton's excuse to bring Allen back because he was a heavy zone guy.

Just watched this last night as well and I 100% agree with everything he was saying, including people acting stupid over those 2 viral clips (one during a college game with the weird underhanded throw that was picked and the combine one) saying he sucks because of them.

This is why despite him being older and me not thinking going QB in round 2 was a good decision, I came around on him very quickly when I actually went and watched videos (not just highlights or lowlights) of his games on YouTube.

You could immediately see a lot of things that you NEED to be successful in the NFL, and he was doing most of them well. He was definitely "pro ready" from the get go compared to the others (which makes sense with how long he was on college).

This is why I was extremely disappointed with going with Rattler to start the year, because you could see all the limitations that he was/is never likely to get over to become a legit QB. Even if Shough wasn't ready as far as knowing the playbook and whatnot, he isn't so soft-minded that it would have hurt his confidence, and he would be even further along by now (and we likely have 2-3 more wins).

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Gayle forced Loomis to fire DA

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during the season.

He was still going to fire him, but let him finish out the year. Gayle said not good enough, which I agreed with her on that.

Hiring Allen in the first place was not good enough and was by far the biggest mistake Loomis has ever made.

He absolutely deserves credit but most of the posters here will never give it to him.

We can't get any value trading them since they will be out of contract.

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So there's a downside to cutting even an underperforming player.

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Yes that is definitely the downside, still paying for a spot that you need to fill.

In most cases though (if done right), that dead money was planned to be there at certain points as almost every contract is backloaded with mostly unearned money to help even out the guaranteed money. So it shouldn't be a surprise when you have these dead money hits as in most cases it was planned to have a player cheaper up front and spread the hit out.

Where you get in more trouble is if you are cutting a guy in the 1st or 2nd year (or sometimes 3rd on a 5+ year) because you aren't planning that extra year or two.

Iirc what happened with us and Galette was we paid him and then in the same year he had 3 things happen that forced our hand in cutting him.

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Dead money is literally the amount of cap hit you are taking

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Yes, but it is also already counted on the cap, so it's not ADDING more money to the cap like most people think. It is literally the remainder after taking off the non paid/non guaranteed portions.

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take big hits on dead money if it's the cheapest way out of a bad contract.

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And this is what people misunderstand about dead money and why they panic when they see the numbers. The dead money does not add to the cap in ANY way. It literally just means guaranteed money the player has already earned (mostly the signing bonus, but also future FULLY guaranteed money). The reason it is "dead" is because the player is no longer there.

While you would like to avoid dead money hits in most cases (and there is a case in which it is intentionally planned out to spread the hit over more years) because it means a player didn't work out, it is still better to move on like you said rather than keep them around just to avoid "scary" dead money if you are truly done with them.