bonethug0180

frick you if you want/hope to lose.

$25 mil per seems pretty absurd, if that's what people were saying, but $16 mil per easy was what he was on track for before the trade, maybe up to $20 mil per if he got better with Shough (which he was on track to do if you look at the game logs).

He won't get less than $12 mil per even with the huge downturn in Seattle, unless this is a loaded WR class (I haven't looked at that yet).

At the pace he was on for us in a contract year, it would have cost us quite a bit to retain him. And while I really like him, the option was really deciding to pay a more consistent Olave or the more boom or bust Shaheed.

We definitely need to look for another game breaker like him now, but at a more cost effective price.

Now if he had been performing like he has since going to the Seahawks, that price might have been a bit more reasonable.

9th since 2000 in fact, with only the Pats, Steelers, Packers, Eagles, Ravens, Colts, Chiefs, and Seahawks ahead of us.

Team wins since 2000.

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Some of you are such queens. The Saints had a winning season as recently as 2023. Ask the Jets, Giants, Raiders, Cardinals, Dolphins, etc. about poor management. Loomis’s biggest mistake was hiring DA and thinking we were on the cusp of something after 2021.

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100%

It's like some of these idiots didn't become fans until we won the SB, and expect that we should be winning one every year and if we don't the season was the worst ever.

Even with how horrible Allen is and the injuries we had, we still somehow had winning seasons even with him.

2024 was the first time since 2005 (Katrina season) with fewer than 7 wins, which was only the second time since 2000, and Loomis was here during that entire period.

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Loomis has destroyed this franchise

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Loomis has presided over the most successful stint the Saints have had in their history by FAAAAAAAAAAAAAR.

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McShay, Jeremiah, Brooks

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These guys aren't so bad, but man Mayock before he became a GM was so fricking money on his takes. I was sad to see him leave because he was one of the few who was actually extremely knowledgeable and not taking money from the agents to push certain players (which you could tell by the way he harped on many guys not on most "experts" radar and the fact that there wasn't any common agents threads amongst the players he talked about).

Kiper is and has been the biggest idiot of all those draft "expert" idiots. Dude is a fan that does not know the game like someone who has actually been in it does.

He goes off of hope and word of mouth (which around draft time is filled with lies to throw people off) more than anything the player has actually done.

Iirc, he killed us for Michael Thomas (who yes had injuries and went off the deep end, but that's not why he hated Thomas) and that immediately proved to be an idiotic take. I mean I can point to most of our picks and he practically hates the vast majority every year.

Not to mention he is paid to push certain players by certain agents (same as many of these "experts"), so all the more reason not to pay attention to their propaganda bs.

There are so very few actually knowledgeable AND unbiased people that do draft stuff these days. Most are idiots that don't really know the game, on the take, or both.

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They botched the best draft pick in recent years with Zack Baun, which should be a fireable offense in itself.

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This was a Payton/Allen failing, because it was said particularly that they didn't know how to fit him in the scheme, which is a great failing of the DC.

This was ALWAYS Allen's issue was that he does not bend his scheme to the players, rather he tries to bend the players to his scheme, and gets rid of them if they don't fit.

This is also my biggest issue with Payton and the Ryan thing. Ryan came in and made a scheme to fit the players and we had a top 5 defense a year after having the worst defense ever, then Payton mandated running the Seattle Cover 3, which Ryan neither had familiarity with nor the players to run it. And that was Payton's excuse to bring Allen back because he was a heavy zone guy.

Just watched this last night as well and I 100% agree with everything he was saying, including people acting stupid over those 2 viral clips (one during a college game with the weird underhanded throw that was picked and the combine one) saying he sucks because of them.

This is why despite him being older and me not thinking going QB in round 2 was a good decision, I came around on him very quickly when I actually went and watched videos (not just highlights or lowlights) of his games on YouTube.

You could immediately see a lot of things that you NEED to be successful in the NFL, and he was doing most of them well. He was definitely "pro ready" from the get go compared to the others (which makes sense with how long he was on college).

This is why I was extremely disappointed with going with Rattler to start the year, because you could see all the limitations that he was/is never likely to get over to become a legit QB. Even if Shough wasn't ready as far as knowing the playbook and whatnot, he isn't so soft-minded that it would have hurt his confidence, and he would be even further along by now (and we likely have 2-3 more wins).