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Duncan: My intel says 50/50 shot Saints draft a QB in round 1, but not at 9
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:32 am
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:32 am
In his latest article he claims that after talking to people, he does not believe the Saints will draft a QB at 9, but that they will try very hard to trade into the back half of the 1st for one.
They just don't love the value at QB at 9, and the Saints just don't do things that way. They are more likely to take DL or OL, unless an elite talent like Warren or Jeanty are there.
They love Shough and Dart, allegedly.
Basically what we were discussing all day yesterday.
(the 50/50 comment was offhand in a tweet, I don't think he was giving an exact chance lol)
They just don't love the value at QB at 9, and the Saints just don't do things that way. They are more likely to take DL or OL, unless an elite talent like Warren or Jeanty are there.
They love Shough and Dart, allegedly.
Basically what we were discussing all day yesterday.
(the 50/50 comment was offhand in a tweet, I don't think he was giving an exact chance lol)
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Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:51 am to Fun Bunch
I fully expect them to trade up to 20 or 24 to draft Jaxson Dart.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:57 am to Fun Bunch
Yes that is what my ex brother in law sisters dad told my cousin yesterday!!
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:03 am to Fun Bunch
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but that they will try very hard to trade into the back half of the 1st for one.
Here's the problem with this. To do so would most likely require next year's 1st, which appears to be a draft containing much more talent than this year's. Why would you sacrifice a 1st in a more talented draft to grab a guy this year rather than just use the first you already have? It's foolish.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:05 am to Fun Bunch
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They just don't love the value at QB at 9, and the Saints just don't do things that way. They are more likely to take DL or OL, unless an elite talent like Warren or Jeanty are there.
I really want to see this boards nuclear meltdown when the Saints talk Warren or Jeanty at 9 while Will Campbell in on the board.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:53 am to Midget Death Squad
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To do so would most likely require next year's 1st, which appears to be a draft containing much more talent than this year's.
Not necessarily. Using the draft pick trade chart, you could do the following trades.
Saints trade with Vikings and get Pick 24 and send Minnesota Picks 40, 93, 112 & 131. (Vikings only have their 1st, 3rd, 5th and 6th round picks this year and are looking to get more picks.)
Saints trade with their buddy CSP and get Picks 20 and 191 and Broncos get Picks 40, 71 & 93.
It would be interesting to see if Carr could be traded to a team like the Colts, Cardinals, Vikings or Rams who might want to bolster their QB room. Not even sure if that’s a real possibility or not with salaries, injury, etc.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:55 am to Snipe
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nuclear meltdown when the Saints talk Warren or Jeanty at 9 while Will Campbell in on the board.
Nope! I think everyone knows this team needs play makers desperately. Of course, they need guys in the trenches desperately, too!
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:09 am to Fun Bunch
I don't understand the logic though...if you don't feel one is worthy of a top 10 pick, doesn't that mean you don't view any as franchise QBs? So why give up assets to get back in and take a guy you're clearly not that sold on?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:12 am to Suntiger
This is what i would have an issue with. This is a fairly deep class at several positions on a team that desperately needs depth and new starters. So, our plan is to give up multiple picks this year ? I’d rather give up a a 2nd and 3rd this year and a pick next year. Giving away most of our draft capital this year just isn’t the way. Wouldn’t surprise me if we do this though
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:12 am to jrobic4
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Of course, they need guys in the trenches desperately, too!
What they should avoid doing is drafting a guard at #9 in Will Campbell.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:40 am to Snipe
So I’ll take this to mean we are drafting a qb at 9 … damn it
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:41 am to Snipe
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What they should avoid doing is drafting a guard at #9 in Will Campbell.
We could only dream he falls to 9 … 4 seems like a lock
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:18 am to Dnorma2
I hope we don't draft will campbell.. Overrated
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:05 pm to Fun Bunch
I and my team around me predict Jeff Duncan has a 50/50 chance at making more stunning 50/50 predictions!
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:08 pm to Midget Death Squad
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Here's the problem with this. To do so would most likely require next year's 1st, which appears to be a draft containing much more talent than this year's. Why would you sacrifice a 1st in a more talented draft to grab a guy this year rather than just use the first you already have? It's foolish.
Not the case. Let's say we went for pick 24 (Vikings), a common trade back spot.
That pick is worth around 740 points on this chart..
Our 2nd (40) is worth 500 points. We have two thirds - pick 71 (235 pts) and pick 93 (128 pts). We could give them 40+71 and it would be 735 pts....almost exactly the value of 24. In that case we would still have a 3rd round pick as well.
Alternatively we could give them 40+93+112 (500+128+70) and some future picks and get into the ballpark and keep the earlier 3rd but I don't like the idea of dropping two extra picks in this draft personally.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:31 pm to Fun Bunch
quote:Great, pick one of them at 40 if they’re there. If neither is, oh well.
They love Shough and Dart, allegedly.
Do not give up draft capital for someone you don’t believe is good enough to pick at 9.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:34 pm to Sasquatch45
Sooooo as credible a source as Duncan, Underhill ad Shelter
Maybe more.
Maybe more.
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:39 pm to MetArl15
I’d rather draft BPA, Tank, then get a QB next draft. Way better prospects
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:42 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I’d rather draft BPA
best passer available?
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:11 pm to Fun Bunch
If we draft Jeanty at 9 I'll lose it
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