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re: Zach Lowe Expects Pels to be Sellers at Trade Deadline

Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:12 pm to
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No no you don't understand. Mid level first round picks and young flyer talent are more valuable than a great defender, good creator and scorer, and well-respected veteran all in one player that we have on contract for 2 and a half more years.



Jrue makes like $26 mil per. Something substantial would have to come back. Picks or young guys would be secondary and tertiary pieces in a deal for him
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55888 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:12 pm to
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Jrue to Miami for Waiters contract and a couple of their young guys would work for me.
waiters is a complete cancer. Even if he doesn’t play just having him on the team is too much. I’d rather Leonard’s contract
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted by Pelliveli
Member since Jun 2015
1012 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:14 pm to
Definitely time. People keep saying wait until the off season but the more people see Jrue's play as the "man" this season the lower his stock will drop.
Posted by purplepylon
NOLA & Laffy
Member since Nov 2005
8255 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:23 pm to
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waiters is a complete cancer. Even if he doesn’t play just having him on the team is too much. I’d rather Leonard’s contract


While I agree on Waiters we might be taking both to make the money work

Jrue, Melli and Jah to Miami
Waiters, Leonard, Winslow, Herro to Pels
Posted by Pelicansfan69
Member since Oct 2019
304 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:24 pm to
Who’s to best defensive big man on the trade block? I feel like a big defensive specialist is what we are missing right now
This post was edited on 1/24/20 at 10:24 pm
Posted by jamal
Places Unknown
Member since Jan 2013
12875 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:24 pm to
Probably Drummond
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
55888 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Definitely time. People keep saying wait until the off season but the more people see Jrue's play as the "man" this season the lower his stock will drop.
I think it’s more just them being able to get him for an extra half year while making their playoff run.i think the market will be just as competitive for him right now then it will during the summer. A lot of teams who are title contenders will go for him
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:26 pm to
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unless Josh Hart has a twin.





how about josh jackson, 6 8" kansas, 4th overall a few years ago, in the memphis doghouse. 20 ppg in g league.

Was a turnover machine.
Seems to have tamed down.

Memphis first rounder going to boston so they would like pels'.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
70945 posts
Posted on 1/24/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Jrue, Melli and Jah to Miami Waiters, Leonard, Winslow, Herro to Pels
Heat hang up laughing.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33521 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 12:51 am to
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Heat didn’t want to move Herro at all.


I’d love to have him here though. He’s young, perfect floor spacer and a bonafide sharp shooter. He would never be a star but he’s that Danny Green type player that plays his arse off, makes smart plays and knocks down shots. He’d fit in well with us, either in the starting lineup or as a combo guard coming off the bench
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128018 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 12:58 am to
There’s one player that the Heat would trade Herro for on our team and it’s Zion.

Obviously that’s ridiculous so we are not getting Herro.

We would have to attach multiple picks with Jrue to get him. I know multiple people will say “ERRONEOUS” but I promise you it’s true.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
33521 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 12:58 am to
You have to try and make moves for players. The old regime never tried to do this for AD. You have to try and hit on picks in the draft the way the Thunder did and hope to hit on players like they did.
Posted by LilWezyAna
BR
Member since Feb 2016
3185 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 10:12 am to
My point is that if we run a team out there with Lonzo, Naw, Ingram, Zion, and Hayes every night, with young guys coming off the bench, we will give up 150 a game
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26065 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 10:18 am to
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You have to try and make moves for players. The old regime never tried to do this for AD


That’s just not accurate. This belief that AD didn’t have talent around him is insulting to all of the talent he had around him. The list is long, the moves Dell made to try to cobble together a roster, and there were plenty of talented guys here to make the team a win perineal playoff team.
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73952 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 10:31 am to
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That’s just not accurate. This belief that AD didn’t have talent around him is insulting to all of the talent he had around him. The list is long, the moves Dell made to try to cobble together a roster, and there were plenty of talented guys here to make the team a win perineal playoff team


What

Dell certainly tried but definitely did not succeed

The Asik and Solomon Hill deals alone handicapped this team for years and essentially negated an positive moves he made
Posted by touchdownjeebus
Member since Sep 2010
26065 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 10:35 am to
Solo and Asik are just two of the eleventy billion moves he made. The Asik move made sense when he made it. AD couldn’t win with guys who have gone in to contribute all over the league. AD isn’t a leader and not a guy you build everything around.
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 10:46 am to
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Drummond


head case?

Why is he for sale?

He didnt play vs memphis yesterday.

Double double when plays.
Posted by NOSHAU
Member since Feb 2012
13488 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:26 am to
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how about josh jackson, 6 8" kansas, 4th overall a few years ago, in the memphis doghouse. 20 ppg in g league.

Was a turnover machine.
Seems to have tamed down.

Memphis first rounder going to boston so they would like pels'.
There's a reason he has been in the doghouse everywhere he has played. He is an immature head case and not a very good player. Pass.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46675 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 11:31 am to
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AD couldn’t win with guys who have gone in to contribute all over the league. AD isn’t a leader and not a guy you build everything around.

A reasonable question is ask is why, as good a player as he is, any competent team around AD can’t win 50 games on the regular. Pels should have won more than they did, in the regular season. Had they done so maybe they could have advanced with higher playoff seeding.

One thing you could count on with demps is that he was always aggressive in trying to improve the team. My only regret is that Davis couldn’t see the wisdom in staying to play with holiday and zion. You’d have had 3 years to make that work, and I do believe griffin would have had a good plan
Posted by GynoSandberg
Bay St Louis, MS
Member since Jan 2006
73952 posts
Posted on 1/25/20 at 12:05 pm to
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A reasonable question is ask is why, as good a player as he is, any competent team around AD can’t win 50 games on the regular. Pels should have won more than they did, in the regular season. Had they done so maybe they could have advanced with higher playoff seeding.



There were stretches of “what could’ve been” when everyone was healthy. That was like 5% of AD’s tenure. AD was not the problem when he was on the floor. He just gets the blame. He’s somehow succeeding playing with a 35 year old lebron and a bunch of scrubs. Pacing the west


If Davis wasn’t hurt, then Eric Gordon, Jrue, Boogie, Ryan anderson was. Guys like tyreke evans, mirotic, rondo - role players- were thrust into bigger roles. Asik and Hill contracts hampered any ability to fill out a roster properly. Developing draft picks weren’t a thing. Bottom of the roster kinda guys were expected to give meaningful minutes.

The AD stretch was just not a good one for the organization. From many different reasons
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