- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Trade Machine fun
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:48 am to Crewz
Posted on 1/16/19 at 10:48 am to Crewz
quote:
I think the only guy that could be a target that we haven't discussed here is Mike Conley. And a guy we haven't discussed much that could be in a trade is Jeremy Lin. Other than that, if and when the Pels make a trade, I would bet its for a guy or guys we have discussed.
Besides my Aaron Gordon pipe dream (since my Beal + Sato dream is dead), another guy I would call about is Luke Kennard as a Etwaun Moore replacement. It seems like the Pistons are luke warm on him. With his quick release and frequent cutting, I think he would thrive with us. I also think he has a better handle/playmaking ability over Etwaun. Not sure what the Pistons wuld want, but perhaps some cap relief, cash, and 2nds could get it done.
ETA:
Pels: Kennard + Leuer
Pistons: Moore + Johnson + 2nd
Pistons save ~$7M next year and get a serviceable SG along with a 2nd. Just saw Kennard went off on Casey the other night for benching him and he to be restrained by other players. Thinking they’d be open to a trade.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 11:59 am
1
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:09 pm to NOFOX
That seems like too much for Kennard. Leuer makes 9.5 million next year and is a negative asset. I don't know why we'd give up an expiring contract in Wes plus Etwaun for what MIGHT be a marginal upgrade.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:20 pm to DallasTiger45
The upgrade with Kennard would be more in the contract for the future and potential to develop. I don’t care about expirings this year because we suck with cap space.
So unless we have a big trade lined up involving Wes this year, then I want a player with salary next year who I can use in trades this summer.
So unless we have a big trade lined up involving Wes this year, then I want a player with salary next year who I can use in trades this summer.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 12:37 pm to NOFOX
I think the odds of operating under the cap next year are pretty low. If going big in a trade isn't happening I'd be fine with taking back someone with salary next year, especially if it lets you keep picks. In this case Hill + Leuer become $22 million worth of expirings to do another Cousins style trade next year (or this summer).
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:16 pm to Crewz
I thought about Conley but with his injury history I figured he’d likely have a leg amputated if he became a Pel.
I think he would be an awesome addition if healthy.
Conley is not afraid to take the big shot at the end of games. He’s closed us out many a times over the years.
I worry about his age and injury history to go with his contract, but I’d bet it wouldn’t take much to get him.
I think he would be an awesome addition if healthy.
Conley is not afraid to take the big shot at the end of games. He’s closed us out many a times over the years.
I worry about his age and injury history to go with his contract, but I’d bet it wouldn’t take much to get him.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 1:31 pm to TeddyPadillac
Thats not the worry with Conley. The worry is if he can push the pace. He likes to play deliberate basketball. Gentry wants a PG who flies.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:08 pm to Crewz
I don't see trading for Conley. His contract, age and as you describe it, fit, may not make a lot of sense. Sounds like he could use Rondo to push the pace. Are the Pels looking at DSJ to potentially fill that role?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:11 pm to NOSHAU
Dennis Smith Jr is a scoring guard, not a point guard
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:34 pm to Crewz
What’s wrong with a scoring guard like DSJ?
Push the pace and run the offense out of that. If you want a guy running a specific offense, then get Conley.
Push the pace and run the offense out of that. If you want a guy running a specific offense, then get Conley.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:39 pm to Crewz
quote:He seems to be able to play the point as well and is very fast. Lin is still pretty fast it seems. Maybe a cheaper 2nd team player like Ish Smith could become available if Detroit becomes a seller.
Dennis Smith Jr is a scoring guard, not a point guard
Posted on 1/16/19 at 2:45 pm to TeddyPadillac
DSJ is the complete opposite of what we need in a PG, our game against them showed exactly that when he refused to pass to a wide open Luka and instead tried to drive to the basket himself (and one can only assume that wasnt the play called either)
Posted on 1/16/19 at 3:29 pm to Soggymoss
quote:
when he refused to pass to a wide open Luka and instead tried to drive to the basket himself
Wait, huh
You mean the play Luka was standing underneath his own goal?
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:09 pm to NOLAbaby
This is when you get on 2k and turn the trade sliders all the way down
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:13 pm to TeddyPadillac
I’d love Prince here. That’s the guy I’ve been wanting. Low usage, can hit a shot, can defend. I know Crewz mentioned a guy with the Hawks and Prince not being in their plans, how concerning it is, etc. I’d still like the move.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:18 pm to CocoLoco
I have no question about adding him today. The question is: What if it requires 4/75 to keep him in the near future?
That is why the Hawks are willing to deal him now. Because they know they won't want to pay that. And if you know that now, smart teams get out in front of it and get an asset.
That is why the Hawks are willing to deal him now. Because they know they won't want to pay that. And if you know that now, smart teams get out in front of it and get an asset.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:36 pm to Crewz
quote:
What if it requires 4/75 to keep him in the near future?
So about $10 million per year less than Otto Porter
Per 36 last year Prince averaged 16.9/5.7/3.1
Otto Porter averaged 16.8/7.3/2.3
For reference peak(first year here) NOLA Solomon Hill averaged 8.5/4.7/2.1
Obviously that doesn't tell the whole story but even with a limited ceiling he looks like he's at least a full tier above the garbage we've been running out at SF since Ariza left. Considering how many games this team has lost by running out too many 3rd stringers in 1st and 2nd string roles, getting a non 3rd stringer will probably require something like an overpay. Maybe he's only worth $10 million, but where else are you going to get a 2nd string SF for $10 million? To me the question is what are your other options in that price range, because you'll eventually have to pay someone. Would Bazemore or trading for Brogdon be better than Prince for example.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 5:38 pm
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:46 pm to TigerinATL
quote:
Obviously that doesn't tell the whole story but even with a limited ceiling he looks like he's at least a full tier above the garbage we've been running out at SF since Ariza left. Considering how many games this team has lost by running out too many 3rd stringers in 1st and 2nd string roles, getting a non 3rd stringer will probably require something like an overpay. Maybe he's only worth $10 million, but where else are you going to get a 2nd string SF for $10 million? To me the question is what are your other options in that price range, because you'll eventually have to pay someone. Would Bazemore or trading for Brogdon be better than Prince for example.
My problem is that we burn a 1st (maybe top 10) on Prince and then AD doesn’t extend, do you still give him 4/$75M? Does anyone think Prince can be even a 3rd Bannna on a legit playoff team or someone to keep around for a rebuild?
I want a legit allstar talent and if not then hold onto the first. Using the first for depth or role players is what got us this horrible roster. Getting Prince/Lin and sneaking into the 8th seed isn’t going to keep AD, so don’t make that move.
This post was edited on 1/16/19 at 5:47 pm
Posted on 1/16/19 at 5:49 pm to NOFOX
At that point, the question becomes: Are you likely to get a player better than Prince at picks 12-18?
Personally, I don't love this years draft, and thats why I might do it.
Personally, I don't love this years draft, and thats why I might do it.
Posted on 1/16/19 at 7:56 pm to Crewz
quote:
What if it requires 4/75 to keep him in the near future?
depends on what Davis does
Page 2 of 6
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News