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Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:42 pm to
Posted by BallHawk
Orlando
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/18/19 at 9:42 pm to
It wouldn’t surprise me either way if he signs or not the off-season. Makes more sense not to financially speaking in the long term. Curious to see what moves are going to be made.
Posted by Mystictiger
Texas
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 1/19/19 at 7:37 am to
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:17 am to
There is a 0 percent chance AD signs the extension this summer. Like I said, the best chance the Pels have of keeping him is to convince him to give them a few more months and then have an awesome team next year, sign his DPE in summer of 2020
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:38 am to
quote:

There is a 0 percent chance AD signs the extension this summer. Like I said, the best chance the Pels have of keeping him is to convince him to give them a few more months and then have an awesome team next year, sign his DPE in summer of 2020




I don't like that at all. That's how you're left standing with your dick in your hand when he decides not to sign anyway.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 8:42 am to
I'm not sure on all of the rules so this might not be possible, but I would gage his interest this summer and run any moves on the table by him to see if he would at least opt in to his option if they were completed.

If he still says no then I start looking to move him.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:11 am to
He won't opt in.

If you wanna keep him, you are gonna have to play with fire and maybe you end up with nothing.

But if you believe in yourself, that's what competent franchises do (see: OKC and George, Toronto and Kawhi)

The safer route would definitely be to trade him.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:37 am to
Like you've said before, it's unlikely the same deals that are available in the summer won't be available next deadline. Only difference is you can't select the players in this year's draft yourself. And let's be honest...would rather Dell or Danny Ainge making those picks?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14310 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:48 am to
The only way I see AD signing this summer is if we pull a home run swing with a coach and GM hire, and tell him hey sign it, if you dont like the direction we are headed by next summer and the plan laid out, then we will trade you
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 9:54 am to
quote:

If you wanna keep him, you are gonna have to play with fire and maybe you end up with nothing.



Agreed.


quote:

But if you believe in yourself, that's what competent franchises do (see: OKC and George, Toronto and Kawhi)




Different situations. Us trying to convince Jrue to re-sign with AD having signed the super max would be similar to George. If George left, Westbrook is still locked up long term.

Toronto is different too because they've made playoff runs and are trying to show Kawhi he's the missing piece. We're trying to keep our heads above water and convince AD the best is yet to come 7 years in.




If nothing comes before this trade deadline and we know he's not signing then my preference is just to move him to the highest bidder.

My plan B would be waiting until the trade deadline to see if a move could be made to at least make his decision harder. If nothing comes by next trade deadline though we would be idiots to hold on to him.
Posted by LesGeaux45
Member since Nov 2009
9232 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:00 am to
Maybe at this point the Conely deal makes the most sense.

You get a third star who's under contract for 3 more seasons, and yes you burn your first rounder but you get back Zhaire Smith who may be as good or better than whoever you would have drafted at 8-16.

If you go on a run (even if you miss the playoffs) you can still tell AD "hey we've got the core with you/Mike/Jrue now. We're improving the roster further this summer so give us until the deadline." Unlikely but maybe it works.
Posted by Crewz
Member since Jun 2014
5093 posts
Posted on 1/19/19 at 10:01 am to
To be clear, it would go like this

Pels this summer: AD, we are going to put an elite roster around you. Give us that chance. Then, in February, if you don't feel like we have done enough to make you wanna stay long term, we will work together to find a trade that makes you happy.

Talk with him throughout the season and if he can't commit to a high likelihood or probability that he will re-sign in summer, you move him in February
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