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re: The Pelicans apparently messed up the Deandre Jordan contract
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:36 am to BlastOff
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:36 am to BlastOff
I frankly love this. Fastest way for Dumars to get fired is to frick with Gayle’s money. He just cost her $3 million for no reason other than being a dumbass.
Wait till he accidentally puts us into the tax and Gayle will kick his arse to the curb so fast his head will spin.
Wait till he accidentally puts us into the tax and Gayle will kick his arse to the curb so fast his head will spin.
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:39 am to Balsamic_duck
Maybe… but if Joe Dumars was her first choice just imagine who her back up was lol. It might be the president of SWBNO to run the team lol.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:45 am to NawlinsTiger9
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His defense of the Queen trade is tantamount to hitting on 18 at blackjack and getting a 2
“SEE?! What were yall so worried about?”
Yes. Results-oriented thinking v. Process-oriented thinking.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:46 am to Dantheman504
None of that has anything to do with the point, which you just can't grasp.
The process of the trade itself can be bad, while the end result can be good. The example I have given you is going All In in poker with 2-7 off suite vs pocket aces, then hitting 772 on the flop. Your process was bad, the math was wrong, but you lucked out. Over time, you will fail.
The same is here. There is no defending:
1) Taking your pick in a better draft and swapping it with Indiana for a pick in the 20s now...before the season was up. Hali then tears his achilles, making that pick much more valuable on paper
2) Taking that pick you have now in the 20s and yet another pick in the following draft to move up 10 spots.
3) Not even asking for any protections, according to reports
Its a terrible process and a bad trade. The Queen evaluation can be great, but the trade bad. Queen could go on to have a great career, and the trade itself, in a vacuum, is still bad. It turned out being good
The process of the trade itself can be bad, while the end result can be good. The example I have given you is going All In in poker with 2-7 off suite vs pocket aces, then hitting 772 on the flop. Your process was bad, the math was wrong, but you lucked out. Over time, you will fail.
The same is here. There is no defending:
1) Taking your pick in a better draft and swapping it with Indiana for a pick in the 20s now...before the season was up. Hali then tears his achilles, making that pick much more valuable on paper
2) Taking that pick you have now in the 20s and yet another pick in the following draft to move up 10 spots.
3) Not even asking for any protections, according to reports
Its a terrible process and a bad trade. The Queen evaluation can be great, but the trade bad. Queen could go on to have a great career, and the trade itself, in a vacuum, is still bad. It turned out being good
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:53 am to Fun Bunch
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The process of the trade itself can be bad, while the end result can be good.
We have gone over this ad nauseam. The TRADE is the process + result. You cannot logically have a bad trade with a good result.
That is blatantly rephrasing a good trade as "a bad trade with a good result"
Bad process/ good luck doesn't matter. The trade itself was not a bad trade regardless of the process.
Y'all are setting the future precident to label every single good thing as "good luck" or leave room to blame the process instead of the outcome.
Y'all are saying it is more logical to not make a trade than to make a successful trade due a bad process. That's really dumb.
Oh and y'all are doing this WHILE crying for us to make trades. You really can't make this shite up..
"I hope Dumars finaly shakes things up"
"I can't believe Dumars shook things up"
"He made a bad trade because he's incompetent"
"He made a good trade because he's lucky"
"Please make a trade Dumars"
"I can't believe Dumars made a trade"
"I can't believe this franchise has been doomed for 25 years"
"Dumars is the reason our franchise is doomed".
"I really wish we would start upgrading players"
"I can't believe Dumars traded a 28 y/o bench player for assets"
He really can't do anything without y'all getting upset and he's mainly doing good things.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 11:01 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:55 am to Dantheman504
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The TRADE is the process + result.
So you think it's a profitable decision to call an all-in on the river hoping for a 2-outer IF that 2-outer hits?
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:00 am to Stamps74
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you had to overpay for a soon to be 38 year old DJ, your franchise is in trouble.
Multiple teams do this.
Udonis Haslem is a prime example. Are the heat a poorly run org?
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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So you think it's a profitable decision to call an all-in on the river hoping for a 2-outer IF that 2-outer hits?
I'm saying that if its profitable its profitable. If you win the money did you lose because of the process? Flawed logic.
We are also using an example that most people make out of emotion or the influence of substances... The guy in charge of a multiple billion dollar org probably put a little more thought in that process which should lead to credit instead of a blatant goodluck vs badluck opinion.
Its more comparable to a card counter that is making such a decision.
That changes the risk and it also changes the view of the process.
You'd have more confidence in the card counter at that point and not less. The logic is flawed.
Now if you view that person as an average Joe (pun intended) instead of a pro then it can lead to a view that its pure luck. But Joe is not a random person and many here refuse to accept his knowledge and decision making as a professional running a billion dollar team.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 11:19 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:11 am to whatiknowsofar
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Udonis Haslem is a prime example. Are the heat a poorly run org?
He finished his career with 6 straight 1-year veteran minimum deals.
No one would be complaining if that’s what we had done with DJ.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:19 am to NawlinsTiger9
So right now we are on track for 3 minimum deals. Big Whoop
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:19 am to Dantheman504
A little communication can go a long way.
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:29 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes. Results-oriented thinking v. Process-oriented thinking.
He simply cannot comprehend this
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:37 am to Fun Bunch
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He simply cannot comprehend this
No, I cannot comprehend that a process is more important to y'all than the result of the process.
Y'all would rather a good process with a bad result > a bad process with a good result.
I understand what y'all are saying, but its bassackwards and quite nuckingfuts.
The process is not more important than the result.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:44 am to Dantheman504
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:46 am to Fun Bunch
And Gayle will likely never even realize anything about this or not care. She’s terrible.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:46 am to Dantheman504
You are confusing the decision with the outcome.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 11:47 am to Dantheman504
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The process is not more important than the result.
Your logic is very woman like.
I applaud your continued effort here, and i appreciate your positive outlook, but you're being illogical, and worse, you don't seem to be able to recognize it in the least bit.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 12:07 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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No one would be complaining if that’s what we had done with DJ.
But because we arent in miami and had to pay a little more we're poorly run?
Why arent we given the same prestige as the Lakers and Heat lol
Posted on 7/13/26 at 12:18 pm to whatiknowsofar
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because Jordan commanded a second guaranteed year in the open market, that's something Dumars should come out and say.
"Hey I know a lot of dudes are butthurt about a minor contract for a bench player let me release a statement about it"
Posted on 7/13/26 at 12:21 pm to TeddyPadillac
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but you're being illogical
I am one of the few people here who are actually logical and unbiased.
Just in your example you claimed I'm taking a "positive outlook" when in reality its just what the frick is actually going on and everyone else is taking a "negative outlook".
I was labeled a "Jose hater" for logically and unbiasedly explaining that he will be traded and why.
I logically and unbiasedly argued Dyson > Hawk due to elite skillsets.
I logically and unbiasedly argued BI taking more 3's on a contract year where he said he would.
Almost every argument I've made has been unbias/ logical met with emotional and predetermined opinions based on bias.
Even the few less logical things I've said are greatly exaggerated. Like us having "3 all stars". No we will probably not have 3 all stars, yes Murray, Zion, and Trey could be all stars.
I say things like "We could be doing this because" and then present a logical reason while the responses are nothing more than "This is incorrect because its impossible for us to do something logical".
Yeah if you just blatantly write off anything logical then it makes sense why everything I say is illogical.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 12:57 pm
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