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re: The Pelicans apparently messed up the Deandre Jordan contract
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:26 am to CP3forMVP
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:26 am to CP3forMVP
His defense of the Queen trade is tantamount to hitting on 18 at blackjack and getting a 2
“SEE?! What were yall so worried about?”
We, as a perennially bad team, traded an unprotected first to move up 10 spots. It is a terrible process. The idea that it didn’t completely backfire doesn’t change that fact.
“SEE?! What were yall so worried about?”
We, as a perennially bad team, traded an unprotected first to move up 10 spots. It is a terrible process. The idea that it didn’t completely backfire doesn’t change that fact.
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Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:28 am to Dantheman504
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Jose trade- Undrafted with 0 impact here that gave us 2 2nds. Denial on this one.
denial is correct, just not the way you see it.
So glad we were able to get the 3rd to last pick of the draft this year, and likely to see another extremely late worthless 2nd round pick in next years draft for Jose.
2nd round picks can be useful........when they are in the top 12-15 or so of the 2nd round.
2nd round picks that are in the 50's are worthless.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:28 am to supe12sta12z
It’s not about the money
Do you want the franchise run correctly or not?
It’s simple. This was a no-brainer decision and we made an unforced error.
Do you want the franchise run correctly or not?
It’s simple. This was a no-brainer decision and we made an unforced error.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:30 am to supe12sta12z
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I'm minimizing it because I really don't give a shite. If Gayle is so worried about a 2 mil subsidy, we're really fricked like when Shinn was the owner.
There's a million different things you can be pissed off about with this organization. This is just a long line of shite you choose to be pissed off about. I choose to be pissed off about the run back. I can't give two fricks about some pocket change for Gayle.
The $2M isn't a big deal, but the fact that this is yet another example of a clear incompetence inside of the organization is a huge deal.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:31 am to Dantheman504
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Its crazy that people actually think this way.
Any person with reason and logic can think this way.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:32 am to whatiknowsofar
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Or we had to overpay and guarantee multiple years.
If you had to overpay for a soon to be 38 year old DJ, your franchise is in trouble. Move in a different direction if that is the case. You won 26 games. You overpay for maybe like the top 8 players cause of Pels tax.
Also when your owner is not gonna spend above a certain level, you can’t waste millions on a move like this.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:34 am to CP3forMVP
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I'm starting to wonder what relation Dantheman has to Dumars because good lord
I'm just simply being unbias. I'm not happy with how things are right now or that there isn't a clear plan but I also like the things we are doing.
1. Queen/ Fears/ Bey are awesome.
2. DJ is extremely beneficial for Missi/ Queen.
3. Benching Z for players with the hot hand was a step in the right direction last year.
4. Getting a full season of Murray is exciting.
frick me for understanding the bad things but actually being excited about the good things?
Y'all act like there are no good things happening and that's beyond pathetic.
Y'all also act like Dumars caused all of this when he's done more good than bad and isn't even responsible for half the shite y'all blame him for.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 9:35 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:36 am to NawlinsTiger9
You guys are too emotional shite that don't matter much or at all in the grand scheme of things. The "process" doesn't exist here. You already knew that. This is so minimal compared all the things they've done here. I can only laugh at the outrage because out of everything else that's been done or have not been done up to this point, this is pretty low on my list to be pissed off or lose sleep about.
This move doesn't move the needle nor does it sink the team in any way. I only care about what they put on the floor. That to me deserves all the outage and pessimism. That's where my outage lies.
This move doesn't move the needle nor does it sink the team in any way. I only care about what they put on the floor. That to me deserves all the outage and pessimism. That's where my outage lies.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:39 am to Fun Bunch
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Any person with reason and logic can think this way.
No it is not logical to think that a draft # is comparable to real sample size data from real players.
Pick #20 is not a logical comparison to a player averaging 20/10/10.
Wow.
Here's a fun little snippit:
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The average draft pick of NBA rookies who record multiple triple-doubles in their first year is Pick 4.2
Real sample sizes- Not logical
The number twenty three- Logical value that all trades can be based on.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 9:45 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:43 am to supe12sta12z
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You guys are too emotional
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This is so minimal compared all the things they've done here.
Yeah, I agree. It’s still a frick up. That’s all anyone is saying
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:44 am to Dantheman504
Is it possible that they just wanted to lock him in for the two years and were willing to eat the relatively small cost it takes to do that?
Just a thought...
Just a thought...
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:49 am to Dantheman504
The fact that the trade *may* work out in the end doesn’t make it any less stupid.
It’s an indicator of how he will run the team. And although this instance it may have worked out, it’s due more to sheer luck than competence, and doesn’t inspire confidence that he’ll make savvy moves going forward.
Using your logic, Nico Harrison was brilliant in trading away Luka because they ended up drafting Cooper Flagg.
It’s an indicator of how he will run the team. And although this instance it may have worked out, it’s due more to sheer luck than competence, and doesn’t inspire confidence that he’ll make savvy moves going forward.
Using your logic, Nico Harrison was brilliant in trading away Luka because they ended up drafting Cooper Flagg.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 9:51 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:49 am to TFTC
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Is it possible that they just wanted to lock him in for the two years and were willing to eat the relatively small cost it takes to do that?
Yes, that would be logical but this is Pels talk. Logic is not logic and pure incompetence is the only logical explanation.
The reason it doesn't make sense is because we are at the tax line already so its seen as a "waste of money".
Its not a waste of money if the plan is to unload Poole/ Hawk and recoup the difference back.
The melts on here are due to people assuming the worst and believing that we will not trade Poole/ Hawk, we are out of money, and no other moves will happen.
We will eventually make moves and these same people will shite on them no matter what.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 10:01 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:51 am to TFTC
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Is it possible that they just wanted to lock him in for the two years and were willing to eat the relatively small cost it takes to do that? Just a thought...
Gayle could have bought more horses, Saved a church, or buy another dealership with that money.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:55 am to PrimeTime Money
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It’s an indicator of how he will run the team. And although this instance it may have worked out, it’s due more to sheer luck than competence, and doesn’t inspire confidence that he’ll make savvy moves going forward.
So we are upset that we do nothing and sit on our stars for 10+ years? Then a guy comes in and does everything we want him to and its a bad thing?
And now that's a NEGATIVE indicator of how he will run the team? Its a negative indicator to squire young assets with an incredibly high ceiling?
The problem is y'all care about value and I care about acquiring good basketball players.
Since Dumars has been here he as added 3 good basketball players. So yeah imagine a guy coming to the Pels org, adding 3-4 key assets within 1 season, and fans saying he's incompetent or can't be trusted...
Incompetent/ can't be trusted compared to who? Anyone else in franchise history? The hate just doesn't make sense.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 9:56 am to Dantheman504
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We will eventually make moves and these same people will shite on them no matter wh
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:06 am to supe12sta12z
Like there’s no way this is getting people up in arms. It’s 2 minimum contracts.
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:11 am to Fun Bunch
For frick sake this organization is an embarrassment on all levels. Just sell the team and move it to Seattle. Someone should lose their job for this but we all know they won’t.
This post was edited on 7/13/26 at 10:13 am
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:13 am to Tank77
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Like there’s no way this is getting people up in arms. It’s 2 minimum contracts.
Tell em Joe !
Posted on 7/13/26 at 10:32 am to XLR84Speed
Trading for Poole, trading an unprotected first in a loaded draft, fricking up basic contract stuff...definitely inspires confidence that we're on the right track!
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