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re: Pels one of six teams pursuing Larry Nance, Jr.

Posted on 3/6/21 at 4:44 pm to
Posted by ghost2most
Member since Mar 2012
7925 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 4:44 pm to
Wait Jrue a borderline all star is worth three firsts it some dude who scores 9 a game is worth two? frick all that.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 5:04 pm to
To be fair this sounds like a Cleveland leak where they’ve probably gotten offers of 1 first and are trying to push the price to 2.
Posted by Macintosh
Lane State University
Member since Sep 2011
56576 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 5:33 pm to
Yeah how are some people on here so willing to give up 2 firsts or young players for Larry fricking Nance.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:21 pm to
Ainge sat on assets and they’re a mid tier team for the foreseeable future. If we move BI and Zion to their natural positions (2 and 3) we need a defensive wing. I’ve advocated everyone except Zion, Kira, BI, Adams, and yes Hayes being on the table with our assets to build a winner now. Nance is a good fit, build the rest with shooters.
This post was edited on 3/6/21 at 6:51 pm
Posted by CelticDog
Member since Apr 2015
42867 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:27 pm to
quote:

Houston got 2 first for Covington, so you have to believe that is where the market starts.





Covington is a wonderful player but 2 firsts surprised me.

Covington has a rather complete game.
I would have taken in first round as my posting history affirms but 2, nah.

I guess people have no confidence to pick good ones so they want two tries.
Posted by supe12sta12z
Tiger Town
Member since Apr 2012
13308 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:29 pm to
Mid tier teams don't go to 3 out of the last 4 ECFs. You're not making a very strong argument. Keeping those assets is a big reason why they still have the Tatum/Brown tandem.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11782 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

Ainge sat on assets and they’re a mid tier team for the foreseeable future.

Kyrie had a hand in that
Haywards injury had a hand in that
AD saying Frick Boston had a hand in that

Ainge got stingy no doubt but bad breaks played a major factor
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:47 pm to
They are not getting by the 76ers, Nets or Bucks now or for the foreseeable future and I’m taking Zion and BI all day over Tatum and Brown. Use your assets strategically.
Posted by 504Voodoo
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2012
13838 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:50 pm to
quote:

Houston got 2 first for Covington, so you have to believe that is where the market starts.


Cool let other teams do that.

Nance is a good player but multiple firsts seems like something a team closer to a run would do.



Correct. All I was saying is that is what we should expect the minimum asking price to be. And if it is, than we say no, thank you, and move on.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 6:55 pm to
Ainge wants to win the deal (tactics) instead of putting players in place that build a team. Nice headlines though
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
34582 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 7:24 pm to
How is zion going to play the 3
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

Use your assets strategically.


Nance for two firsts ain’t it.
Posted by Eman5805
West Bank
Member since Nov 2010
5098 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:01 pm to
How late are we talking? Just after the lottery? Or almost a 2nd rounder? I mean, call the picks players taken around late in the draft. Best case and worst case.

Fit and his contract are more relevant than the picks for my taste. And I Don't have much of a strong opinion about him. Like, at all.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:08 pm to
Surprising part of this season is that Zion has handles. You move him to the 3 and let him go downhill from the wing. BI is a 3 level scorer and a more natural 2. Zion, BI and hopefully Zo need to get better defensively to get where they want to be. With solid defensive minded 4s and 5s they’re on their way.
Posted by Pistol44
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2019
2305 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:11 pm to
A first and expiring contracts may get it done.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112894 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:40 pm to
quote:

give them two of the Laker picks.
Why?

Where exactly does Nance get us over the next couple of seasons that make him worth two 1sts?
Posted by Bronc
Member since Sep 2018
12646 posts
Posted on 3/6/21 at 8:58 pm to
quote:

How late are we talking? Just after the lottery? Or almost a 2nd rounder? I mean, call the picks players taken around late in the draft. Best case and worst case.


As I said on the other page:

quote:

And we’ve gone over the stats before, but worth keeping in mind, late firsts can take longer to develop but the hit rate is around 40-50%. So if you know how to draft you can find very meaningful value in the later part of the first. For instance, OG Anonuby, Kyle Kuzma, Jarrett Allen, Derrick White, and Josh Hart were all found in the 20’s in the same draft. The year before that? Malik Beasley, Pascal Siakam, Caris Levert, Dejonte Murray.

Just this year you have Precious Achiuwa, Saddiq Bey, Tyrese Maxey, Immanuel Quickley, Payton Pritchard, and Desmond Bane that all look like solid to very good players found in the later part of the first.

We have a lot of bites at the apple coming up and if you can’t find multiple Larry Nance’s with those picks, Griff should be sent packing.


I don’t see what Nance brings that justifies giving up multiple first rounders, at any point in the draft.
Posted by jrobic4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
13288 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 6:55 am to
quote:

Covington


he was a really good contributor on a good team for a few years. Isn't he an All-Star this season?
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
6133 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 7:32 am to
quote:

Isn't he an All-Star this season?

lol no. not even close to being an all star. Probably need both rosters out with covid before he’d make an all star game.
Posted by Colonel Flagg
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
23488 posts
Posted on 3/7/21 at 9:30 am to
I am not saying this is the situation; however, at some point it will come to going and getting the right fit or waiting to the point where we don’t make a move to improve.
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