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re: Pels one of six teams pursuing Larry Nance, Jr.
Posted on 3/7/21 at 11:38 am to PillPusher
Posted on 3/7/21 at 11:38 am to PillPusher
quote:No way in hell I would give up 2 1sts for a 28 year old role player. He is a Hart-type role player and that is not worth 2 1sts. Pass.
I’d trade multiple late 1st for him. What’s the point of accruing all these late picks if you’re not going to use them? Take your chances on the draft at pick 20+? Because those always work out.
Posted on 3/7/21 at 11:54 am to NOSHAU
I’d love multiple Josh Harts on this team. Having multiple guys who give a shite every night would be lovely.
Posted on 3/7/21 at 1:07 pm to TotesMcGotes
For 1 pick sure, 2? I wake a solid arse role player for that much.
Larry Nance Jr is a limited role player who isn't worth more than a late 1st
Larry Nance Jr is a limited role player who isn't worth more than a late 1st
Posted on 3/7/21 at 1:09 pm to PillPusher
Stop talking common sense on here! This board loves collecting picks in the 20's-30's only to complain about trading them for players who can help us now!
Posted on 3/7/21 at 1:47 pm to TotesMcGotes
I would too but you already gave up a pick for adams.
I like nance as a player but no way i give them 2 firsts.
I like nance as a player but no way i give them 2 firsts.
Posted on 3/7/21 at 2:28 pm to Chalkywhite84
The only way I would "give up" a 1st for Nance is if it was from whoever trades for JJ. Something like...
Knicks: JJ
Cavs: Melli, lottery protected 2022 Knicks 1st, Cavs 2021 2nd
Pels: Knox, Nance
Knicks: JJ
Cavs: Melli, lottery protected 2022 Knicks 1st, Cavs 2021 2nd
Pels: Knox, Nance
Posted on 3/7/21 at 2:57 pm to Dantheman504
quote:can we wait and see if those picks will actually be in the 20s before we assume they will be. Takes literally one injury or a player wanting to be traded to change that.
This board loves collecting picks in the 20's-3
Posted on 3/7/21 at 3:04 pm to Macintosh504
Yea I mean the Lakers had Lebron that first year and ended up getting the 4th overall pick which they traded to us. Anything can happen... All it took was Lebron to miss a couple weeks for that.
Posted on 3/7/21 at 5:24 pm to HickfawJim1
He will make 10 and 9 mil the next 2 years.
He averages like 10 and 6.
Why would we be giving up picks for that? There has to be more to it
He averages like 10 and 6.
Why would we be giving up picks for that? There has to be more to it
Posted on 3/8/21 at 8:41 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:So, if Hart were on the market, you would be ok with giving up 2 1sts for him?
I’d love multiple Josh Harts on this team. Having multiple guys who give a shite every night would be lovely.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:13 am to NOSHAU
Zion is 20 years old, you don't give up 1st round picks for role players at this point. Maybe if we're talking about a perfect fit on a rookie deal, but the war chest was meant for higher level players and might take a few years to find the right opportunity to spend it on.
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 9:14 am
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:16 am to NOSHAU
To be clear, I don’t think that’s what Nance would go for. If a team offered Cleveland two firsts, even if it was the Lakers and Bucks’ shitty firsts, they’d have taken the deal by now.
But, to answer your question, it depends on the situation. If I’m one role player away, of course I’m giving up two shitty picks for him. If not, probably not.
People are looking at Nance’s stats and coming to a conclusion about him. That’s an awful way to evaluate him. He’s a fantastic defender who can shoot and he gives a shite. He’s like if Nico Melli were good.
But, to answer your question, it depends on the situation. If I’m one role player away, of course I’m giving up two shitty picks for him. If not, probably not.
People are looking at Nance’s stats and coming to a conclusion about him. That’s an awful way to evaluate him. He’s a fantastic defender who can shoot and he gives a shite. He’s like if Nico Melli were good.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:42 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:
People are looking at Nance’s stats and coming to a conclusion about him. That’s an awful way to evaluate him. He’s a fantastic defender who can shoot and he gives a shite. He’s like if Nico Melli were good.
Trading two firsts for a 28 year old role player is a fireable offense imo.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 9:53 am to Macintosh504
quote:
can we wait and see if those picks will actually be in the 20s before we assume they will be. Takes literally one injury or a player wanting to be traded to change that.
Yea most people thought the picks OKC got from Houston were gonna be garbage and Houston’s pick is what, top 3 or 4 right now? Just for taking on Chris Paul and then getting another first for him this year....,
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:00 am to ghost2most
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Trading two firsts for a 28 year old role player is a fireable offense imo.
Deep down, way too many fans would in actuality run this team like Dell Demps given the chance.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:05 am to Macintosh504
quote:
can we wait and see if those picks will actually be in the 20s before we assume they will be. Takes literally one injury or a player wanting to be traded to change that.
Yeah the Lakers are 3-6 since Davis went downs in February.
If he or Lebron missed a season or a large part of it they would be a lottery team.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:11 am to TotesMcGotes
quote:
To be clear, I don’t think that’s what Nance would go for. If a team offered Cleveland two firsts, even if it was the Lakers and Bucks’ shitty firsts, they’d have taken the deal by now.
OP literally states CLE received a package of multiple late firsts and turned it down.
Two firsts is bad enough, but more than two late firsts? Nah. Not for a guy that hates playing center and would back up our best player.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:16 am to Bronc
It could be one of those type of protection that would most likely convert the pick(s) into a 2nd round pick the following year. Multiple first round picks might sound nice but without context, but it's really hard to believe Nance can fetch anything close to that.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:19 am to Bronc
quote:You're assuming a whole lot with this.
OP literally states CLE received a package of multiple late firsts and turned it down.
1. That the Cleveland source is telling the truth.
2. That someone didn't offer two firsts for Nance and a first back, or two firsts and players for Nance and other assets.
Just because the rumor is package with multiple late firsts doesn't mean that the offer was for Nance and only Nance.
Posted on 3/8/21 at 10:22 am to TotesMcGotes
Either a source is credible or not.
You don’t just get to pick and choose what you want to believe is true like it’s a buffet. Or add facts that don’t have source evidence supporting it.
The rumor is multiple teams including the Pels have inquired about Nance, that so far an offer of multiple firsts has been rejected as not enough.
That to move Nance by the deadline would take an offer Cleveland needs to be blown away by.
If you just want to pretend the last two parts don’t exist, or despite no evidence, believe those parts to not be credible but the rest to be, then you are just engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.
You don’t just get to pick and choose what you want to believe is true like it’s a buffet. Or add facts that don’t have source evidence supporting it.
The rumor is multiple teams including the Pels have inquired about Nance, that so far an offer of multiple firsts has been rejected as not enough.
That to move Nance by the deadline would take an offer Cleveland needs to be blown away by.
If you just want to pretend the last two parts don’t exist, or despite no evidence, believe those parts to not be credible but the rest to be, then you are just engaging in willful cognitive dissonance.
This post was edited on 3/8/21 at 10:25 am
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