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re: Pels are registering interest in Detroit’s Bogdanovich per Shams
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:13 am to Mulkey Man
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:13 am to Mulkey Man
Normally I'd be a against a move like this but if BI and Zion keeps getting nicked up and miss extended games, we have no choice but to make an insurance move. As good as our squad is, there's no way they can hang on for too much longer.
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:13 am to Jar_Jar_80
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A starting 5 of CJ,Bojan,BI,Zion,and Val would be so bad defensively.
Don’t need to play great defense when you can put up 150 a night
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:15 am to Balsamic_duck
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DG + Jax + Kira + Temple gets us to 27.5m Bogi + Burks = 29.6 We could make it work without jonas or nance
And now you have 2 empty roster spots and no room under the tax to fill even one of them.
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Bogdonavic + Noel or Burks = $28-$29 Graham/Hayes/Temple/Billy = $26.6 million The Pistons have a full roster, so you may need another team involved as a destination for Billy, but they could immediately waive Temple.
Same with this.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:18 am to Soggymoss
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DG + Jax + Kira + Temple gets us to 27.5m Bogi + Burks = 29.6 We could make it work without jonas or nance
And now you have 2 empty roster spots and no room under the tax to fill even one of them.
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Bogdonavic + Noel or Burks = $28-$29 Graham/Hayes/Temple/Billy = $26.6 million The Pistons have a full roster, so you may need another team involved as a destination for Billy, but they could immediately waive Temple.
Same with this.
You dont need to fill those spots. Kira and temple are our 14th & 15th roster spots and they dont play. whats the difference between having them and having no one in those spots
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:18 am to Soggymoss
I could be wrong but I thought I saw we have a trade exception somewhere. Let me look.
We do. Its 1.7m for Didi
We do. Its 1.7m for Didi
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 11:19 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:21 am to Balsamic_duck
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You dont need to fill those spots
You absolutely do need to fill those spots, you need players to play in case of injuries, especially at the end of the season if you’re in a position to be able to rest guys.
You’re saying this like just a few games ago we didn’t have only 9 players active, losing 2 would have put us below the threshold for active players causing us to have to forfeit the game.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:22 am to 50_Tiger
Trade exceptions don’t exempt you from the tax. Still have to pay the tax on that salary if you use them and it takes you into the tax.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:24 am to supe12sta12z
Bogdonavic would become a little like JV. JV is Zion insurance and Bogdonavic would be BI and CJ insurance. Even though the defense would be rough, I think I want to see if it can work. If it doesn't you can flip Bogdonavic and probably recoup some of the cost.
I get targeting a cheaper player like Beasley, but Beasley seems like a better role player and wouldn't be as good of an insurance policy if Ingram or CJ went down.
I get targeting a cheaper player like Beasley, but Beasley seems like a better role player and wouldn't be as good of an insurance policy if Ingram or CJ went down.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:25 am to Soggymoss
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You absolutely do need to fill those spots, you need players to play in case of injuries, especially at the end of the season if you’re in a position to be able to rest guys.
You’re saying this like just a few games ago we didn’t have only 9 players active, losing 2 would have put us below the threshold for active players causing us to have to forfeit the game.
Then you use 10 day contracts and 2 way guys to get those warm bodies. Plenty of teams leave roster spots open throughout the season
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:27 am to Soggymoss
quote:He's better than Naji, Trey, Dyson and Herb by a substantial margin.
I guarantee you Bojan would take over the starting 2 spot from Herb.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:28 am to Balsamic_duck
If the team thinks Ingram isn't going to play this season, does this make them more or less likely to go after Bogdanovich?
Do they think they could contend replacing BI with Bogdan and make a run?
Do they think they could contend replacing BI with Bogdan and make a run?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:29 am to Balsamic_duck
quote:Not sure this happens in the way you described. But also, yes you do need to fill those spots.
You dont need to fill those spots
quote:The difference occurs when you have 4 or 5 guys out due to injury at the same time, then what?
Kira and temple are our 14th & 15th roster spots and they dont play. whats the difference between having them and having no one in those spots
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 11:31 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:30 am to supe12sta12z
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Normally I'd be a against a move like this but if BI and Zion keeps getting nicked up and miss extended games, we have no choice but to make an insurance move. As good as our squad is, there's no way they can hang on for too much longer.
Insurance for what? If you don't expect the team to be fully healthy this season it would be foolish to waste assets on a rental (he's in the last year of his contract).
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:31 am to Epic Cajun
quote:Bojan? He has 2 years left after this one.
Insurance for what? If you don't expect the team to be fully healthy this season it would be foolish to waste assets on a rental (he's in the last year of his contract).
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:33 am to TigerinATL
People who want to stay the course don't want to see it but BI has already missed 29 games and at this rate, he's going to miss half the season if not more.
Zion is current at 15 games, and will more than likely be out another 10-15 games before he might return.
I don't know if I can trust these guys to stay healthy in the regular season. If we want to let them sit until they're 101%, they need to go get a guy that can help them stay afloat while they're out.
Zion is current at 15 games, and will more than likely be out another 10-15 games before he might return.
I don't know if I can trust these guys to stay healthy in the regular season. If we want to let them sit until they're 101%, they need to go get a guy that can help them stay afloat while they're out.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:34 am to Balsamic_duck
So, frick practice the rest of the time also?
10 day contracts cost you roughly 100k per contract, with those trades we could only sign 5-7 of those then we’re right up against the tax.
There’s a lot more things you have to take into account, going with only 13 players on a roster is not good for any team, especially when we have guys constantly missing time.
10 day contracts cost you roughly 100k per contract, with those trades we could only sign 5-7 of those then we’re right up against the tax.
There’s a lot more things you have to take into account, going with only 13 players on a roster is not good for any team, especially when we have guys constantly missing time.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:39 am to shel311
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Bojan? He has 2 years left after this one.
Oh shite, I didn't scroll down on Spotrac
It shows current contract at the top and upcoming extension below. That would make me feel much better about a potential deal for him
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:41 am to Soggymoss
Pistons got him for next to nothing from the Jazz. They are playing with house money. I would bet he could be gotten for a protected 1st (top 8 maybe). I would not take the risk of a completely unprotected pick for a 33 year old.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:43 am to Soggymoss
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And now you have 2 empty roster spots and no room under the tax to fill even one of them.
You don't have to fill 2 roster spots, but you do have to fill 1 and get to 14.
Pels are currently $3.5 million away from the tax, so you have to include Kira rather than Billy.
Bogy + Noel = $28.8
Graham/Jax/Kira/Temple = $27.5
You've added $1.2 million so still have $2.3 million to fill the 14th spot.
Veteran minimum contracts are subsidized so for tax purposes they are treated like a 2nd year minimum ($1.7 million). LINK So you could add someone from the buyout market to the 14th spot, meet the roster requirements and still be under the tax by about $600k. Burks makes $800k more than Noel so you can't swap him for Noel and make the money work unless you also moved Billy for less money coming back.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 11:48 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 11:53 am to TigerinATL
And I think Noel is the perfect 3rd big
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