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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:26 pm to Baron
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:26 pm to Baron
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The assets we’ve accumulated. I’m fine with making a big move, but trading an “AD like package” for Trae Young is fricking dumb
I want Trae on this team, but only if he’s coming severely discounted. There were reports that BI has more value than him before trade season. If the Hawks want a combo of Herb Trey DD and Bi along with multiple firsts and swaps, they can go kick rocks.
And who woukd the Lakers give up besides picks 6 years down the road and I guess Reaves? They have nothing. Can they even have three players making that kinda salary ?
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 7:27 pm
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Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:26 pm to Epic Cajun
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We get a good defensive rim protecting center
My thoughts on this part is we would have a line of centers waiting to come play alongside Z and Trae knowing they will look good.
Also if we were to do the deal I listed above (BI to 6ers, picks from 6ers and Pels to Hawks with Dyson and Hawk), we would still have 5 or 6 tradeable 1sts and some swaps along with Nance and CJ salaries to get whoever/whatever we would want.
We could also re-sign Naji and Jonas usong their bird rights to use as human trade exceptions, as long as we make sure to stay under the first apron. We would have approx 30 million under the first apron after the trade FWIW.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 7:28 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:27 pm to Macintosh
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what’s over and beyond to get Trae? I haven’t really read much into it
If BI, Dys and 2 FRP's (1 being lottery protected) doesn't get you Trae than I don't want him, regardless of his desires. I've seen some outlandish Atlanta wanted returns for Trae out there. I want none of that.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:28 pm to Soggymoss
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Also if we were to do the deal I listed above (BI to 6ers, picks from 6ers and Pels to Hawks with Dyson and Hawk), we would still have 6 tradeable 1sts and some swaps along with Nance and CJ salaries to get whoever/whatever we would want.
The problem with your scenario is that there is no way on earth we are getting 4 1sts from the 76ers (or anyone) for BI.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:28 pm to Baron
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Though you hear rumblings about how teams like 76ers, MIA, Nets, LAC, GS, NYK all want to try and get Donovan Mitchell, PG, or even Bridges.
Trae is a player that wouldn’t fit on every team. The sixers have Maxey, the Knicks have Brunson, Golden State has Curry. The Nets don’t really have anything left on their roster if they trade for him, it’s just not realistic for most of those teams listed.
ETA: the Clippers are trying to stay out of cap hell and I don’t think they have picks to trade (if they do it’s not many)
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:30 pm to Soggymoss
Zion's time to become Zhanos is here.
Tell those two bozos in the FO, THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS IF NO TRAE.
Tell those two bozos in the FO, THERE WILL BE PROBLEMS IF NO TRAE.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:31 pm to purplepylon
I’d give them Herb and BI for Trae.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:37 pm to Epic Cajun
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The Nets don’t really have anything left on their roster if they trade for him, it’s just not realistic for most of those teams listed.
And MIA has no real assets either, but they try to insert themselves into the conversations for great players.
I don’t think people understand that we already have Zion who is an extremely hard player to fit around. Then people want to add Trae who is also an extremely difficult player to fit around. Sure we would score points, but we would be an absolute disaster on D. People complained about CJ’s defensive performance down the stretch and then in the same breath drool over the idea of adding Trae Young.
I don’t see us burning a bunch of assets and then still being able to have the ammunition to add the perfect pieces around them to make it work, while also paying everyone.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:42 pm to Macintosh
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Is Murray and Capela an improvement over Bi and Jonas?
I haven't watched enough Capela to comment on that end of it, but I think JV will be missed and that's Willie's fault. I've been against most JV trades for the last 2+ years because every single one of them was an expensive lateral move that potentially opened up as many holes as it plugged.
Contrast that with Murray for BI. On paper at least, it looks like a lateral move to slight down grade, but you aren't paying a premium and glaring holes are plugged but new holes aren't opened. That's probably a function of BI not living up to his potential, but still, I'm irrationally excited at the idea of Murray on this team. I really haven't watched him enough to feel this way, but the Pels lost every single game where they didn't have the lead going into the 4th, and we saw them fail to hold the lead many times, and it was almost always crunch time offense and lack of ball handling that failed the Pels. This just feels like a whole is greater than the sum of the parts move, and I hope they make it.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:48 pm to Macintosh
frick em all and they mama
Hawks get
Lakers 1st
Herb
Ingram
Pels get
Trae
Hawks 1st this year
Hawks get
Lakers 1st
Herb
Ingram
Pels get
Trae
Hawks 1st this year
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:54 pm to whatiknowsofar
Not a chance in hell Atlanta would give up Trae and #1 for BI and Herb…
Posted on 6/25/24 at 7:54 pm to whatiknowsofar
Dyson would have to shoot league average from 3 this season for me to be okay with losing Herb. We have to pair Trae with an elite defender in the backcourt.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:00 pm to whatiknowsofar
I just find it a little funny we were all talking about how we would use the warchest on an all nba player down the line. Now the times come and people don’t want it. Meanwhile we’ve been a perennial play in back to back to back. Make it make sense!!
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:02 pm to CajunMD
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The trade is being held up on the first pick... Yes, you heard it. Hawks want Clingan. That is 100%. They are trying to find a way to get him, meaning trading down. Clingan is literally the holdup of the trade at the moment. Tomorrow will be a big day..
Would we be in the market for the first pick?
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:14 pm to Soggymoss
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Not a chance in hell Atlanta would give up Trae and #1 for BI and Herb…
And the Lakers first.
Add another 1st and hawk
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:15 pm to Macintosh
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Now the times come and people don’t want it
Because Trae may no longer be an "All NBA player"
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
No matter what happens
I’m ready to be disappointed
I’m ready to be disappointed
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:19 pm to whatiknowsofar
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And the Lakers first. Add another 1st and hawk
Still not happening
Atlanta would not add the first pick to Trae for a future pick, even if you include 4 of them
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:36 pm to Macintosh
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all nba player
Trae young is a Stat padding loser.
He is so bad defensively that Atlanta built a team around him with defensive guys and still can't even cover him up.
He's a bad offensive chucker who's extremely inefficient, for a "shooter" he only averages 35% from 3 for his career. As the primary ball handler has a 2:1 ast/to ratio.
Come playoff time, he will be hunted.
Posted on 6/25/24 at 8:39 pm to htran90
And has led a shite team to the Conf Finals and has All NBA appearances.
Unlike BI who can't even get a shot off against Dort and Brooks.
At least he gets stats. BI is just a loser.
Unlike BI who can't even get a shot off against Dort and Brooks.
At least he gets stats. BI is just a loser.
This post was edited on 6/25/24 at 8:41 pm
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