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re: NBA Offseason officially kicks off, Ingram’s days in NOLA coming to an end per Stein

Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:18 pm to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:18 pm to
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Just a reminder thats pretty obvious.


Just a reminder that you don't have to share every thought that crosses your mind.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:19 pm to
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Just a reminder that you don't have to share every thought that crosses your mind.


But you can. So I guess I can too.
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:24 pm to
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But you can. So I guess I can too


We know
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 6:28 pm to
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We know


You don’t have to share every thought that crosses your mind.
Posted by Townedrunkard
Member since Jan 2019
15077 posts
Posted on 6/21/24 at 10:59 pm to
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We can find lineups all day long where the net ratings look good because they’re in limited minutes, doesn’t necessarily mean those players would be well together all season long


So the lineup I presented to you actualky had DD starting double digit games with a decent amount of minutes played together during that time after you said it would be a disaster for our lineup if he started. This after you said he’s at best 7th or 8th off the bench.

You throw a hypothetical starting lineup together that played against backups in short periods of time to prove your point with zero starts together against actual starters.

I mean really bruh? Just take the L and move on…
This post was edited on 6/21/24 at 11:01 pm
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:00 pm to
You guys realize that yall argue circles around +/- groupings of a team that couldnt make the 2nd round in the last 6 years.
Posted by Pels_Yaz
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 6/21/24 at 11:15 pm to
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You guys realize that yall argue circles around +/- groupings of a team that couldnt make the 2nd round in the last 6 years.


Yup and we cling on to hope of the so called “potential” of players. Its the life of a pels fan.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 11:53 am to
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Wouldn't getting the league's best rim protector turn us into an elite defensive team? I think so.

The bigger question is: if we were to keep BI, would Kessler improve the defense of our starting five to the point that CJ, BI, and Zion can play together?
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 6/22/24 at 7:59 pm to
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Chicago must think he’s worth a superstar package
This post was edited on 6/22/24 at 8:00 pm
Posted by Soggymoss
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 4:21 pm to
There’s alot of smoke that Paul George will opt in and demand a trade where he wants to go, which would indicate he wants a team that doesn’t have cap space.

Warriors, Knicks, Cavs and Heat come to mind.

Clippers will likely be wanting a “star” win now piece back in the deal, we could jump in and send Ingram to them and take pieces from wherever they’re sending PG
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 4:30 pm
Posted by teke184
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:25 pm to
Still begs the question of what pieces come our way depending on the team.

For the Cavs, Allen and Garland come to mind.

For the Knicks, I’m less sure. They won’t let go of Brunson, OG is expired, I want no part of Randle, etc. I don’t see Robinson, Josh Hart, or Bogdanovich being a primary in the trade as much as filler.

Warriors? I don’t see any pieces they would be willing to trade that really helps us. Young guys like Kaminga and Moody balanced with someone like Wiggins and CP3?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:49 pm to
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Young guys like Kaminga and Moody balanced with someone like Wiggins and CP3?

Exactly what I was thinking. CP3, Kuminga and Moody with a couple picks
Ingram and GP3 to Clips
PG to warriors

That leaves GS with Wiggins and Loomey salaries if they want to make another move also.

Knicks would definitely have to be a pick heavy package but I wouldn’t scoff at Bogi, Robinson and 2-3 picks with one of them being our Bucks pick back next season.
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 5:55 pm
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 6/23/24 at 5:59 pm to
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CP3, Kuminga and Moody with a couple picks


That seems duplicative and not necessarily an upgrade on our existing talent. Unless the idea is to flip Kuminga and Moody for something like Allen/Kessler and Murray.
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 6/23/24 at 6:05 pm to
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Unless the idea is to flip Kuminga and Moody for something like Allen/Kessler and Murray.


This would definitely be the plan. Dangle both of them with Larry to Cleveland for Allen. Hold on to CP3 and use his expiring at the deadline to grab whatever surprise star shakes loose

Or dangle Moody to Ainge and see if he will bite on Kessler, keep Kuminga as Naji replacement/primary backup to Z
This post was edited on 6/23/24 at 6:44 pm
Posted by jamal
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 6:18 am to
Shouldn’t we expect the rumors to start ramping back up today?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 6:31 am to
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Shouldn’t we expect the rumors to start ramping back up today?

Yeah we should start to see alot of different rumors start coming out today and really ramping up tomorrow and Wednesday
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/24/24 at 7:59 am to
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That seems duplicative and not necessarily an upgrade on our existing talent.

How many teams in the league would take Trey over Kuminga?

Kuminga is 21 and took the step we have been waiting on 23 year old Trey to take. You can argue fit due to the 3 point shooting, but Kuminga emerged as a super talent this year and his shooting improved a great deal as the season went on when he really got run.

If Kuminga has another step in him, he's bordering on better than Zion territory (without the weight/injury concerns).
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
30358 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:12 am to
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If Kuminga has another step in him, he's bordering on better than Zion territory (without the weight/injury concerns).




Maybe go grab you some morning coffee and restart your brain this morning b/c something wonky is going on in it.


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How many teams in the league would take Trey over Kuminga?


I know I would, and I like Kuminga, but what Trey does offensively is special as a role player.
Posted by TigerinATL
Member since Feb 2005
62446 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:14 am to
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You can argue fit due to the 3 point shooting


I'm arguing. I'm not saying he's trash or anything, just that he's not the role or position we are trying to replace/upgrade.

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If Kuminga has another step in him, he's bordering on better than Zion territory


I fully admit I haven't watched Kuminga outside of games vs. the Pels, but this seems like extreme hyperbole to me. Kind of like saying Julius Randle is 80% Zion. Do/will defenses scheme against Kuminga? Will he see 5 defenders in the paint? Zion's gravity is what makes him a star level player and the difference between 80% Zion and 100% is kind of a big deal. We see how big that difference is every October-December.

Also, trading BI without getting a starting caliber creator/ball handler back AND adding a non shooter to the starting lineup seems like a worse direction than paying BI $50 million per year, which most of us agree is the wrong way to go.

If we get involved with a PG13 to Golden State trade then you have to flip Kuminga/Moody.

This post was edited on 6/24/24 at 8:17 am
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
17659 posts
Posted on 6/24/24 at 8:32 am to
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Also, trading BI without getting a starting caliber creator/ball handler back AND adding a non shooter to the starting lineup seems like a worse direction than paying BI $50 million per year, which most of us agree is the wrong way to go.

In what i proposed up top CP3 would be coming back to lead bench creation until you can get a team to shake loose a star guard. Also I don’t see Kuminga as a starter on this team, he would be primary backup to Z, and maybe play some small ball 5, but preferably I would try to use them to get Allen and keep CP3 and the picks to go big game hunting
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