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re: I have a hard time believing Griffin will do what needs to be done.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:52 pm to Pels_Yaz
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:52 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Again with added draft pick compensation.
You just skip on over the fact that EVERY OTHER TEAM THAT WAS IN ON CJ HAD 1ST ROUND PICK(s) ON THE TABLE IN THE TRADE JUST LIKE WE DID, THE ONLY REASON WE WON OUT WAS BECAUSE WE HAD THE EXPIRING SALARY
READ EVERYTHING DUMBASS
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Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:53 pm to Epic Cajun
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So, with the new CBA you think it's better for a team like Utah
You’re the only person that mentioned Utah, I’ve been saying teams like Atlanta that can get max level guys to go there, exactly how my post is written.
If you can attract max level players in free agency AND have the ability to get a multitude of draft picks, you do it. Teams like us, Utah, Memphis etc we have to trade for those guysz
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:54 pm to Soggymoss
Actually IIRC they let CJ choose where he wanted to go, from the teams that offered comparable deals.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:56 pm to Balsamic_duck
Right look at the moves Dallas made at deadline it took out of play-in we stayed pack and now we in play-in if David is not willing to make moves you got to move on from him end of story
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:56 pm to Epic Cajun
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Actually IIRC they let CJ choose where he wanted to go, from the teams that offered comparable deals.
This is said alot by teams to make themselves look good, I don’t put a whole lot of stock into those reports
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:56 pm to Soggymoss
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You’re the only person that mentioned Utah, I’ve been saying teams like Atlanta that can get max level guys to go there.
Another one that needs to read everything stated
Pretty sure I said Utah before you brought up Atlanta? I was choosing choosing a random team that isn't a target location for NBA players, my point is that there are only a handful of teams that have valuable cap space, for the other teams (which New Orleans falls into), it is not valuable to have cap space, because you will not be able to use it on upper tier players. That doesn't mean that expiring contracts are worth zero to a team like New Orleans, just that they aren't worth what they were once thought to be worth.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:57 pm to Soggymoss
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This is said alot by teams to make themselves look good, I don’t put a whole lot of stock into those reports
It wasn't a report, CJ literally stated as much.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:58 pm to Jnola
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Actually IIRC they let CJ choose where he wanted to go, from the teams that offered comparable deals.
This is not NBA2K you can’t force a trade. Other teams have to agree to the trade. By all accounts they persued multiple high level centers HARD but the other teams wouldn’t move them
Posted on 4/15/24 at 3:59 pm to Epic Cajun
And literally everything I have been talking about is trading with Atlanta, but somehow you come along and pull Utah out your arse to try to build some sort of gotcha.
However if we are going to talk about Utah, apparently Ainge coveted expiring contracts despite his market since thats what he demanded in Vanderbilt/Russel trade
However if we are going to talk about Utah, apparently Ainge coveted expiring contracts despite his market since thats what he demanded in Vanderbilt/Russel trade
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 4:01 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:02 pm to Soggymoss
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And literally everything I have been talking about is trading with Atlanta, but somehow you come along and pull Utah out your arse to try to build some sort of gotcha.
It's not a gotcha, I was commenting on the value of expiring contracts as a whole. I just used Utah as an example of a team where cap space may not be valuable. You may want to get out of your feelings because you are acting like an emotional lesbian.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:08 pm to Epic Cajun
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It wasn't a report, CJ literally stated as much.
Because it's a nice story that makes him look good to the new fans. Portland practically gave away Norm Powell and Robert Covington not long before the CJ trade in an obvious effort to clear cap space. The Knicks and Bulls didn't have what Portland was looking for in return and the Pels did, expiring contracts to bundle with a 1st that they would use to target Jerami Grant. Would the Blazers have let CJ veto a trade, maybe. But it never came to that and the trade that was made appears to be one that both Portland and CJ wanted.
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 4:09 pm
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:10 pm to Soggymoss
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This is said alot by teams to make themselves look good, I don’t put a whole lot of stock into those reports
There were three teams that CJ was able to choose from, and he picked us out of the three. It was widely reported at the time, and CJ himself talked about why he chose us (BI).
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:21 pm to longhorn22
quote:He does the complete opposite. He creates the open looks and gets dudes wide open.
Fit is horrible and he clogs up the offense.
quote:Who?
Get a 6'10 Big who can stretch the floor and protect the rim
quote:And your 6'10 dude is going to be a better passer and more efficient scorer than Zion too while playing better defense?
Too much relying on Zion to just drive to the goal with his left hand only and teams just sag on him because he's no threat to shoot the ball.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:21 pm to Fun Bunch
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And yet, the Pels starting lineup seems to be better with Trey and Zion rather than BI and Zion.
You say this like we weren't a 4-seed before BI got hurt and we shite the bed.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:22 pm to Jester
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You say this like we weren't a 4-seed before BI got hurt and we shite the bed.
I'd argue that was more about Jose being out than BI.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:23 pm to Jester
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You say this like we weren't a 4-seed before BI got hurt and we shite the bed.
I dont understand why people find this hard to believe but its facts. The plus/minus for the whole season shows you this.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:25 pm to GOP_Tiger
quote:I'm just not seeing it if we make the playoffs.
But we can't just run it back with BI. We can't punt, because the time for waiting is over.
quote:They have to have a lot of confidence in him....like making him the face of the franchise and #1 option for half the season and the dude who is always announced last in the starting lineup when none of that remotely makes sense with Zion around, that type of confidence in him?
And for everyone talking about how cheap Gayle is, the truth is that they have to have a lot of confidence in him to become a superstar to pay him what they're going to have to pay him to keep him.
That's the other big reason that I don't see us keeping Ingram.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 4:28 pm to shel311
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like making him the face of the franchise and #1 option for half the season and the dude who is always announced last in the starting lineup when none of that remotely makes sense with Zion around, that type of confidence in him?
Why do they do this? Like some of the dumb stuff we do I feel like is just based on dumb internal relationships or picking favorites. Like this is a sports business of winning not pick whoever is your friend and make him the lead guy. Its just weird arse bullshite.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:16 pm to Pels_Yaz
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Why do they do this?
It's about leadership. Guys like Jose and Naji look at BI as a big brother.
Posted on 4/15/24 at 6:18 pm to shel311
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like making him the face of the franchise and #1 option for half the season and the dude who is always announced last in the starting lineup when none of that remotely makes sense with Zion around
Sounding like a fanboy Shell ....
This post was edited on 4/15/24 at 6:29 pm
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