re: Walking Dead S07E08 “How It’s Gotta Be” mid season finale

Some may be upset, that's kind of spoilery to talk upcoming bad guys.

Whoa dude what the frick??

I honestly thought ‘whisperers’ was another name for the garbage people


Could have given a warning

His dad ,as of a couple months ago, said that he wasn’t going to go to college and was going to move to LA to try his hand at movies. We took the walking dead tour in senoia with his dad who was pretty awesome.

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So nobody knows why Gabriel sick all of a sudden? Guess we just ignore that.

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It's from covering himself in walker guts in the trailer with Negan.

Reflecting on the episode last night, lost in all the Carl stuff is how incredibly stupid the Enid part of the show was. You are sneaking into Oceanside territory (and why they would want to help you after you stole all of their guns is a different topic) and when someone starts poking around where you are at night (hint: it's probably someone from Oceanside considering we are led to believe they live in seclusion) you take a shoot first approach and then we are STUNNED to find out it was in fact someone from Oceanside. Brilliant

Oh and my statement from last episode of why risk Rick's life to get about 10 people who can't be trusted on board rings even truer now. Glad we went down that path with Rick

People need to get all comic talk out of this thread before Cocomo has a coronary.

Very meh episode overall, especially for a midseason finale IMO.

Maybe it was just the TV I was watching on, but I could barely see what was happening a lot of times due to it being too dark.

What was the significance of showing Rick and the garbage people at the beginning? Am I wrong or did we never see them again for the rest of the episode?

Once again, we have Rick/Negan with fantastic chances to kill each other, and they don't fricking do it. It's fricking stupid at this point. I know some detractors will say "They can't kill them, because then the show would end," or "this story isn't over yet, so they have to let them live still...," and that's fine. But if that's the case then stop making them both say over and over (and over) how much they want to kill the other person. It's simply annoying at this point.

Hey, Carl:



I am actually a bit more on board with the show now that they (assumedly) killed off that annoying little a-hole.

There are other things I could complain about, but I won't. I'll simply say that this has been the most disappointed I've been in a season of a show in a really long time, maybe ever. And the biggest problem with it that I have is that AMC keeps trying to shove it down my throat how awesome the show is. Every single time on Talking Dead (which I catch a couple minutes of at the end of recorded episodes), they try to act like the episode was SO deep and Chris fricking Hardwick is trying to tell me how to "process" the episode like it's some serious shite. I've said it before, but if you constantly have to tell everyone how awesome the show is, then that is a surefire sign that it isn't awesome.

I honestly think people like Gimple (who is fricking awful) sit down and think of like five "big things" (or things they think are big) to happen during the season, and that's all they care about. The rest is just basically filler....but not even good filler. There have been some GREAT "filler" episodes on this show in the past; episodes that don't really advance the plot, but that tell a story and give context to things. The Morgan/bostaff episode where he learns that shite from John Carroll Lynch. The backstory episode with the Governor and his journey to Woodbury. Etc. But now the filler we get almost literally is just filler to kill time until the "big reveal of the OMG BIG thing." And what's dumb is sometimes it's not even a big thing. Carl getting bit = big thing. Maggie telling off some dude and then saying her name was Maggie Rhee = not a big deal. But nerds everywhere had a collective orgasm because she said Glenn's last name. And I remember seeing the first couple minutes of Talking Dead after that episode and they were flipping the frick out because she had said that.

This season could have been cool. Even sticking with their plan of showing the attack from different angles and points of view, that could have worked had it been better exectued. But instead we got this giant pile of jumbled bullshite that rarely made sense and often confused the viewers. Nothing really flowed. Very few things made any sort of sense. And it felt like little-to-no effort or care at all was given to trying to make things make sense or have reasons. It was all bullshite filler to lead up to (what they thought were) big "oh shite" moments. What the show used to do so well has now become its downfall for me.

This entire half season, SUCH a huge deal has been made about "the plan" and the walkers surrounding the Sanctuary, and how the Saviors were fricked and can't get out. We even got an entire episode dedicated to Eugene and him struggling with how he is going to get these people out of the situation and to safety. And what happens next????? The Saviors escape and begin attacking Rick and company. How'd they get out? We have absolutely no idea. Unless I missed something, all that was said was that it was basically Eugene that got them out. So all of this time was spent building up with Eugene about trying to save the Sanctuary, and how fricked they were....we even saw them be even more fricked when Darryl breached the wall with the truck. All of that only to have it happen offscreen with nothing shown as to how it happened. Now, maybe they will show that in the second half of the season, but by then people likely won't care anymore. It's just lazy IMO, and it's shite like that that the show does all the fricking time. Hell, even Carl getting bit didn't really happen "onscreen."

When Simon shot that dude in Maggie's vehicle, I had to rewind it and see who it was because it wasn't anybody worth remembering. But that was supposed to be a relatively big moment, with someone dying, and it was basically an afterthought.


ETA: Best part of the episode (outside of Coral's reveal) was Maggie capping that dude in the face. That was pretty badass.

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When Simon shot that dude in Maggie's vehicle, I had to rewind it and see who it was because it wasn't anybody worth remembering. But that was supposed to be a relatively big moment, with someone dying, and it was basically an afterthought.

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His name was Neil.

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I actually thought the Negan/Carl scene was pretty damn good...."this ain't fair kid...you know that, etc."

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I thought that was an okay scene for Coral (even though I was yelling at my TV for them to shoot him and give him what he wanted). It almost made me respect him a little bit. My problem with it was in the end, once we see that he was bitten. So it wasn't really terribly noble of Carl to do that since he was already dead (basically). Still a good deed, but it took a lot of the bravery/sacrifice out of it for me.

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His name was Neil.

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I know, I heard Maggie too.

Honest question: Did you know that before she said his name (when she asked for the coffin "to bury Neil")?