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re: Walking Dead S07E08 “How It’s Gotta Be” mid season finale

Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:01 am to
Posted by Cow Drogo
Member since Jul 2016
7837 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:01 am to
So there’s a special prize out for the widow king and rick

Yet Simon just allows Maggie to freely return home to
The hilltop unsupervised to Fortify and prepare for war.
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:19 am to
Because the saviors want the hilltop to produce for them, and Maggie is their leader
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156604 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I honestly didn't know that happened or was a thing. Couldn't have told you Glenn's last name


The only reason I know it was "a thing" is because I caught the first few minutes of TTD after that episode and everybody was freaking the frick out about it. I was like well of course her last name is Glenn's last name...they are married.
Posted by YoungManOldMan
Member since Dec 2017
1882 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 11:42 am to
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This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 11:44 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65427 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

Honest question: Did you know that before she said his name (when she asked for the coffin "to bury Neil")?

Neil was a redshirt. Everyone watching the show was supposed to get that. It was pretty obvious when they first showed "Neil" and you (were supposed to) realized that you'd never seen him before. I took it as kind of a joke.

Carl getting bitten was obviously the big story, regardless of how anyone felt about him. I hope it wasn't just weasely producer shite (Gumple firing the kid) and that if Carl really dies, it will not negatively affect the show too much.

Maybe this is why the kid I'd never seen before was on the Talking Dead last week.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:51 pm to
It would have been more impacting if he had shot Jesus dead instead.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
24837 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 1:56 pm to
He’s so annoying. He then has the nerve to comparing to Maggie right before she kills that guy in retaliation.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37335 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 2:26 pm to
I’m willing to suspend a good bit of reality (unlimited bullets, access to running cars/gas) to allow the story to progress, but the laziness of the writing just gets me too often.

There were several times during the dark show that I had no idea where they were from scene to scene.

I’m sure they will attempt to tell the story on how the Saviors escaped next half-season like it’s a cliffhanger, but like Cocomo said, no one will care as much at that point.

WTF is the gay dude and Enid doing going to Oceanside for on their own (in another car)? And an even bigger WTF is them stopping off at the local distillery and get a (running and fueled-up) cargo truck full of booze?? A gift? Great idea, Enid.

I still can’t get over how little defense measures these compounds have in place. The watch team/person stands there in full view of anyone around in the woods. The Saviors never had any defense in the structures around them. Now, they go to all our war and still only have watchmen that stand in full view to be shot in Alexandria?

And LOL at Neegan giving them the complimentary 3 minutes before storming the compound, all while standing in plain view to be killed (again). The ominous whistle helped to add to Carl’s magic disappearing act.

How the frick does Jerry get t-boned in the car while they are riding in a caravan and no one notices?

Funny how Maggie killed a prisoner for revenge but it just happened to not be the biggest troublemaker they have in there.

ETA- and several have said this but it’s true. The story has become lazy convenient filler to lead up to ‘big events’.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted by Poxxxx says GFR
Franklinton, LA
Member since Aug 2011
7986 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:31 pm to
Still can't believe they're killing off Carl.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 3:37 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 3:43 pm to
If I'm being being made to let the saviors live, I'm at least cutting off all their dongs.

I guess the hilltop is now the most habitable place to live, possibly kingdom. Oceanside or similar wouldn't be too bad, I don't mind fishing. Plus the excess fish and etc would make great for priming the soil for crops.

I'd cherry pick through Oceanside and hilltop females, has to be someone worth settling with. Someone like Enid has the right mindset, she'd earn points by bringing home a truck of whiskey.

But anyways, Alexandria has burned. Once again Rick proves he's bad luck to any town or community he sets foot in. I don't see the sanctuary worth saving, I don't see the direction from here. I guess Ricks visions are heaven.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51733 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 5:30 pm to
As much as I defended the show, lately I simply can't. They fricked up one of best arcs in the series and even maganed to ruin the bomning of Alexandria. But none of that compares to killing Carl.

Like him or not it's his story and he plays an extremely important role later on and the way they're going they might just skip over the next group which would really piss me off. I can't go into too much because of comic spoilers, but the next arc features a unique group and is heavily reliant on Carl.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 5:32 pm
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23216 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 6:41 pm to
Holy shite AMC app is fricking awful.

I just turned it on to watch last nights episode, and they have a commercial during the first break advertising their own app, and it spoils the ending.

I'm pissed
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
42143 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 6:54 pm to
Too many plot lines and new characters lead to lousy character development. I miss characters like Shane and Merle, who were so complex that people could get in serious arguments about whether or not you liked them. I miss true moral compass characters like Dale and Hershel, whose morality was clearly laid out, tested and steadfast. The show flat out sucks now. I hate to say it but it does.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:00 pm to
quote:

Every single time on Talking Dead (which I catch a couple minutes of at the end of recorded episodes), they try to act like the episode was SO deep and Chris fricking Hardwick is trying to tell me how to "process" the episode like it's some serious shite


Pretty much agree with everything you said, but this annoys the hell out of me. They act like a real person died. Anyone who needs some kind of consoling because a tv character died needs serious help. They do this every time.

This episode was confusing as hell. The entire first half of the season was a waste of time. I still have no clue what Michonne was doing at the end. Rick spent two episodes recruiting that other horrible group, only for them to run off at the start of the episode.

Why did they build this beef between Rick and Daryl, build what Daryl and Tara were doing like some giant backstabbing of everyone, then be like “oh it was Eugene that got them out”?

I have no idea what’s going on with Gabriel. Where did the woman with Dwight magically disappear to? How did Carl, with a bum leg and woozy from an explosion in his face, manage to pull his magic trick in the smoke in a split second?

I still don’t get what the plan at Alexandria actually was. The two biggest focal points of the episode happened off screen. That being Carl being bit, and Saviors escaping. I think everything else has pretty much been brought up. What a disaster of an episode. Just terrible.
This post was edited on 12/11/17 at 7:18 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:29 pm to
I'm thinking it may be Enid who meets a guy.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65427 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 7:57 pm to
Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
8305 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:38 pm to
I just read some online reviews of the episode and people who normally praise the show are finally coming down on it.

Forbes writer said he's basically done with it until they fire everyone involved.
Posted by LSUZombie
A Cemetery Near You
Member since Apr 2008
29696 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 8:55 pm to
Just stunned that AMC would let a cash cow get this far out of hand. Gimple needs to be fired asap and then they need to try and get things back on the rails. They had a fool proof outline to follow and they basically tossed it in the trash. It's insane the powers that be even ok'd this to happen.
Posted by lsuhunt555
Teakwood Village Breh
Member since Nov 2008
39015 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:21 pm to
I'm 2/3s of the way in and this show is fricking terrible. I don't even like watching it anymore.
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 12/11/17 at 9:21 pm to
Real talk: I feel bad for Chandler Riggs who just bought a house in Atlanta, near where TWD shoots, because he said that last year Gimple told him that he could see Carl's story going on for at least 3 more years.
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