re: The Walking Dead, Season 2, Episode 7 "Pretty Much Dead Already"

I like how I can come here each week and read everyone's take on what happened in only 45 minutes (42 really) of screen time.


Was it like this during LOST's run?

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Acknowledge how much of a badass zombie lovers they are. Kiss their zombie rings. Maybe they will shut up for the next run of episodes.

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That's one of those questions that it is just better not to ask. You could literally dissect just about every aspect of there survival decisions if you wanted to.

It's an interesting question whether things which are potential spoilers for the comics only but are not spoilers for the show are taboo in a thread like this.

This particular dust up seems to have arisen over the spoiler about the girl which can only apply to the comic (since she just got blown away in the series)

Personally, I don't care at all if people post those kinds of spoilers cause I haven't read and don't plan on reading the comics. In some ways I find them (a little) helpful and interesting in that they show how the comic and the series diverge. I actually think the guy that posted that one was trying to just show that everything in the comics does not happen in the series and vice versa.

At the same time, I can see where people who plan on reading the comics could be upset. Might call for a ruling by the powers that be - is a spoiler for the comic only but not for the series forbidden in these threads?

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At the same time, I can see where people who plan on reading the comics could be upset. Might call for a ruling by the powers that be - is a spoiler for the comic only but not for the series forbidden in these threads?

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The powers that be disagree on the matter.

I don't mind mild spoilers about anything, not just the comic. I'm talking about any media. A complete spoiler ban makes it literally impossible to discuss any art whatsoever. It's a completely untenable position, and I think the "rude" arrow swings over to those whining about spoilers. If you engage in discussion on pop culture, expect minor spoilers on any topic related to the discussion. If I'm talking about Star Trek, I should expect mild spoilers about the Next Generation.

That said, big spoilers are an obvious no no. Don't reveal Darth Vader's identity or the big twist in any movie. Try to avoid talking about stunt casting in films. that sort of thing. If the art is relying on surprise, then don't reveal it.

But I actually think the Spoiler Nazis, who believe that no person should reveal any detail of something they have not seen, are the ones in the wrong. Spoilers are a neccessary part of any discussion of media. You assume the risk if you enter a conversation. It is finding a decent middle ground between the two sides -- and I don't think "Sophia is alive in issue 91" comes anywhere near that line.

How can you discuss what is affecting the walkers (joggers) without bringing up the source material which created the rules?

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How can you discuss what is affecting the walkers (joggers) without bringing up the source material which created the rules?

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As far as I am concerned there are no comics. The only source material I need are the episodes that have been shown. Discuss those episodes. Go to the other threads if you want to feel cool about having read the comics.

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Go to the other threads if you want to feel cool about having read the comics

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I've read each issue probably 4 times. I must be extra cool

Great, great episode. Just got around to watching last night.

- Dale is an idiot. I understand he is the moral center but his high horse act is starting to put them in serious danger. He's going to hide their weapons because he doesn't trust Shane? Really? Seems reasonable to expose your whole group because of your distrust which by the way you have no solid evidence of at all. "I know what kind of man you are." Yep he's the man that has helped you survive for as long as you have whether you like it or not. Imagine the reaction if zombies broke out of the barn and everybody went to get armed and, oops, guns are gone. Let's trek into the swamp to get them. Or if he had hid them and then died. Even better. Dale, like many others in this episode, were clinging onto a world that didnt exist anymore.

- Hershell's character is annoying but interesting. It was subtle but I liked his reaction when Maggie called the zombies "walkers" during their talk in the house. Also, hearing that his only daughter was almost killed not even 24 hours ago by one of them didn't even turn his beliefs towards the zombies. That is some serious delusion/denial.

- Loved how Darryl got pissed at the mom for giving up hope. She should have been the last one to do so.

- The final scene. What a great 10 minutes of TV. Shane flipping out when he saw Rick was what this group needed. You had 3 people putting themselves in harm's way to usher 2 zombies into a barn for safe keeping. Zombies that they continued to feed with their limited resources. Zombies that were separated from where they slept by an old wooden barn with a few locks on the door. This scene to me was a complete wake up call to those still hanging onto the old world. Loved how Shane kept shooting the one zombie in the chest in front of Hershell. It was a brutal way for it to happen, but seeing the massacre of the barn zombies might have been the only thing to separate those still clinging to the old world from it. Hershell's delusion of them being sick people is now hopefully gone along with the illusion of power that he held over the ranch. He along with the others there with the exception of Maggie had been too sheltered from the brutality of the current state of the world. Maybe now they wont be.