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re: ‘The Mandalorian and Grogu’ Discussion Thread. Currently 62% tomatometer

Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:09 pm to
And I’m discussing the actual movie. He’s just assuming what the movie is without seeing it, based on his own preconceived notions, and then getting offended by what he’s made up in his own mind. It’s discussion, which he’s free to do, just as I’m free to call him out for it in a thread literally about reviews for the film, a review which I provided because, you know, I actually WATCHED it before making up my mind about it.

Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should and it doesn’t make you immune from criticism of others who want to discuss what this movie IS not what they imagine it to be, and this is coming from a pretty big critic of Disney Star Wars in general.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 1:11 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:16 pm to
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Its gonna take more like $650 to $700 to break even. $166 million production budget plus another $175 in P&A has been reported.


If you're gonna add marketing to the budget, then you'll need to add ancillary revenues to the box office total
Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 1:58 pm to
Movie math has always been like this.

Budget + Marketing x 2 is what is needed to break even.

X 2 is for the theaters to get their cut.

Budget is 165 million.
Marketing is half of budget = 82.5 million.

Breakeven point is 495 million.

DVD/BluRay, streaming and merchandise also is a factor to include in profit.

Superman was pretty much at the breakeven point last year until merchandising pushed it over. Studios went hard into the merch category when the rental market was eliminated.

Posted by olemc999
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:01 pm to
I made a list of all the Star Wars movies ranked by RT fan scores because you can’t trust critics.

1. Star Wars: Episode V – The Empire Strikes Back — 97%
2. Star Wars: Episode IV – A New Hope — 96%
3. Star Wars: Episode VI – Return of the Jedi — 94%
4. The Mandalorian and Grogu — 88%
5. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story — 87%
6. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker — 86%
7. Star Wars: The Force Awakens — 84%
8. Star Wars: Episode III – Revenge of the Sith — 66%
9. Solo: A Star Wars Story — 63%
10. Star Wars: Episode I – The Phantom Menace — 59%
11. Star Wars: Episode II – Attack of the Clones — 56%
12. Star Wars: The Last Jedi — 41%

As I said earlier. People saying that this movie is the worst Star Wars movie of all time is straight hyperbole.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:03 pm to
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DVD/BluRay, streaming and merchandise also is a factor to include in profit.


yeah I recall Superman added that period of time where they were selling it on demand and added to its total for profitability purposes

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this review is pretty brutal
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 2:04 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:05 pm to
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As I said earlier. People saying that this movie is the worst Star Wars movie of all time is straight hyperbole.


Nobody said it's the worst of all time, that's reserved for TLJ. It is a meaningless made for TV movie and Disney is run by a bunch of hacks. that's the point you aren't getting
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 2:07 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:13 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24217 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:19 pm to
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you know, I actually WATCHED it before making up my mind about it...Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should and it doesn’t make you immune from criticism of others who want to discuss what this movie IS not what they imagine it to be



shut the frick up, BOB. Every single review that has been released about this film has confirmed exactly what I said about this movie from the beginning. I don't need to see it to confirm it because it's been verified already.

Want me to pay for it just so I can say, told you so? Will that make you feel better?

care to explain why Favreau didn't even want to make this toy commercial?
Posted by SonicAndBareKnuckles
Member since Jun 2018
1961 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:43 pm to
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. Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker — 86%


This is a fake score.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70548 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 2:54 pm to
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care to explain why Favreau didn't even want to make this toy commercial?


Disney makes dumb decisions with its IP’s? This is known. It seems clear to me that Disney was caught flat-footed without a plan following the crash and burn of the sequels. So, they decided to order the team behind Mando to take something they already were working on for the show and re-edit and add reshoots and a higher effects budget to upgrade it to a movie. I believe this is sorta the reverse problem that occurred with the Obi Wan show, where material originally meant for a movie was stretched into a season of tv with little budget or thought behind it.

All of those shenanigans behind the scenes may explain why the film was made and why it is paced the way it is, but that doesn’t have much bearing on why I go to a movie theater. I just happen to like The Mandalorian, enjoyed most of the Feloni verse shows (both animated and live action), and even though I was disappointed with Season 3 and the Book of Boba Fett, I was intrigued enough to give it a chance. I am glad I did, as I regretted not seeing Solo in theaters.

I go to the theater to be entertained. If I had fun, I got my money’s worth. If I didn’t enjoy it, I complain online. Is Mando & Grogu a great movie? No. Is it entertaining enough for me to enjoy seeing it on a Thursday night? Yeah. Is it flawed? Absolutely. Is it up to the standards I believe Star Wars should aspire to be? No.

However, it is, more or less, what I wanted it to be: a fun, one off adventure where the Mandalorian does bounty hunter stuff in the Star Wars galaxy. I didn’t want another Skywalker story. I didn’t want a dour depressing movie. I didn’t want a SJW feminist screed. I didn’t want a movie that sets up the sequel trilogy or unmakes it (at least not from this movie). I got a fun stand alone adventure that was worth my $10.

I think there’s room in the Star Wars IP for serious spy craft political thrillers like Andor, fun space westerns like Mando, and high fantasy morality plays like the original trilogy. Personally, I hope we next get a cool WW2 dogfighting movie next. I would love another serious prestige tv series in KOTOR. I want a heist movie with the cast from Solo. I want them to recast Luke, Leah, and Han (or at least use the same actor from Solo) to tell another high fantasy morality play following some of the expanded universe stuff. I want another season of Ahsoka and more Mando content. There’s room for all of these different things in Star Wars. It’s a big galaxy.
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 3:02 pm
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27246 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 3:38 pm to
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Every single review that has been released about this film has confirmed exactly what I said about this movie from the beginning. I don't need to see it to confirm it because it's been verified already.

Want me to pay for it just so I can say, told you so? Will that make you feel better?


Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24217 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 3:48 pm to

Robert Meyer Burnett explaining why it's disappointing yall are eating up the lowest common denominator slop and why Disney doesn't know what they're doing. I don't expect you to be able to hold an intelligent conversation about that, though.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27246 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 3:53 pm to
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Robert Meyer Burnett explaining why it's disappointing yall are eating up the lowest common denominator slop and why Disney doesn't know what they're doing.

Noone is watching that but im glad it provided you some much needed validation.

Next can he do a video explaining how you became an insecure man-child seeking validation from others based on your opinions of star wars movies from strangers on the internet?
Posted by Roaad
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Member since Aug 2006
84056 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:02 pm to
Wasn't Campea the guy that called out hate, and then called Peacemaker's Nazi World, "MAGA World"? Like, right after Kirk was murdered?

I can't listen to partisan hacks as reviewers. Not of movies, TV, video games, music, spray starch. teeth whiteners, et al


He is as pathetic as the Nerdrotic neckbeard, and for much the same reasons

"Stop the hate and hate the people I hate!!!!"
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 4:03 pm
Posted by RedPants
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Member since Jan 2013
6058 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:43 pm to
Is it worth seeing tomorrow or waiting for D+?
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70548 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:47 pm to
It was worth it for me, might not be for everyone. It’s got some really cool visuals that will look better in a theater.
Posted by RedPants
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Member since Jan 2013
6058 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 4:49 pm to
Nice. I’ll probably check it out. Never in a million years did I ever think I’d be on the fence about going to see a Star Wars movie.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24217 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:40 pm to
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Wasn't Campea the guy that called out hate, and then called Peacemaker's Nazi World, "MAGA World"? Like, right after Kirk was murdered?

Rob is his co-host and is actually an intelligent guy. He has his own channel

Campea is very left and still didn’t like this movie
This post was edited on 5/22/26 at 5:41 pm
Posted by Shorter Yards
Here and There
Member since Jun 2020
768 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 5:42 pm to
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It was worth it for me, might not be for everyone. It’s got some really cool visuals that will look better in a theater.


The wife and I took our grandsons to it today, I thought it was pretty good and I haven’t watched the series.
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74310 posts
Posted on 5/22/26 at 7:19 pm to
Just saw it. Was only the three of us in the Imax screen. Though my theater is dying anyway.


It wasn't bad but it felt like a season of the show.
It wasn't great but it didn't piss me off like the sequels. The music was weak. The visuals were good.
I liked Jabba's son as a character. I still don't understand ATAT walkers in a world were hovering is a thing. Was cool to see inside one though.

It picked up but the first half just felt slow.
I like Grogu and the little mechanics.
I would put it below Rogue one and maybe slightly above Solo.
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Worth seeing for the visuals but We won't be talking about it in 20 years like the Prequels and OT

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