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re: Rewatching Band of Brothers today

Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:41 am to
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:41 am to
I watch BoB every Memorial Weekend. My dad was a paratrooper in WWII. He was in the 508 PIR not 506 like BoB. He never talked about his service in WWII, even though I asked often because I was a history major. I hope BoB gave me a glimpse of what it was like. Dad was 18 when he served. Amazes me when I think about that.
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Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 7:53 am to
I have it on DVD, and need to make another rewatch. It is the greatest mini-series ever on television, IMO.
Posted by lowhound
Effie
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:52 am to
I did the same last night, watched the first 3 episodes. Makes me miss my paw paw, as he was also in Battle of the Bulge. He never told any of his stories until one day my cousin talked him into doing an interview on camera. It's amazing what those guys went through. It truly gives you a feeling of pride and respect for the men that fought and died for us all.
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
One Particular Harbor, Fl
Member since Jan 2012
9153 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 11:08 am to
quote:


+1

Interview with the guy saying he served in a company of heroes, always gets me.


The interviews at the begin of the episodes always set the stage.

That interview was one of the best.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35624 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 2:08 pm to
Man, I binged almost the entire thing yesterday.

Their first jump during the invasion at night with the planes and anti-aircraft artillary is one of the most intense scenes I've ever seen in a movie or TV.

You're sitting on a couch at home scared shiteless.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 3:12 pm to
17 years since it's release, and it's still the best thing that has ever been on TV in my opinion. I still remember the first time I saw it. I was at a hotel in Wales a few months after September 11th...alone and away from home. I can't recall ever being as moved by anything I have seen on TV before or since.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35624 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

I watch BoB every Memorial Weekend. My dad was a paratrooper in WWII. He was in the 508 PIR not 506 like BoB.


My great Uncle was a Marine in Okinawa, so I watch the Pacific too. And then when the war ended he was stationed in Shanghai for 5 years to help rebuild that country.

I also have a great Uncle on my Mom's side who served in Africa under Rommel. My grandparents and extended family were displaced persons from Croatia and first got shipped to Poland in a camp and then to army barracks in Austria.

And in Austria, every living boy got conscripted into the Army. A great Uncle was little more than a teenager and got captured in North Africa and was shipped to Texas as a POW. He said it was the greatest time in his life as they got to go to town and pick up girls...and it got him out of the war. He was shipped back to Austria after the war and lived to be 90.

So sort of odd, that I have relatives on each side...my mother was a child during the war living in Europe and my great Uncle on my Dad's side was fighting in Okinawa.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
14260 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 4:36 pm to
One of my favorite themes of BoB is how Winters started out as just an ordinary guy and emerged to be a truly heroic leader of men. A person I’d be humbled to meet IRL.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18607 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 5:40 pm to
FWIW, historians are very critical of the book to the point they do not see it as an accurate representation.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
35624 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 5:48 pm to
I never trust historians even 50 years after the fact when it comes to war.

Everything is muddled and half-lies and secrecy to thwart the enemy during wars. You can't trust anything.

Let alone Homer writing about the Trojan War 500 years later.

War is all about lies and deception and propaganda.

History of warfare is a half-truth read.

But I'd rather trust the personal recollections of the men who were actually there, than historians.

Posted by CaptSpaulding
Member since Feb 2012
6522 posts
Posted on 5/29/18 at 8:39 pm to
One of my favorite scenes is when Major Winters tells them that they’ve been ordered to go on another scouting mission, but that they should just get a good nights sleep and he’ll report that it was unsuccessful.
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
6889 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 7:43 am to
I've read all of the biographies and autobiographies about Easy company I could find and the biggest complaint that they have is the Webster was kind of a douchebag that no one liked and his autobiography was very inaccurate. The stories of all of the other members of Easy are all consistent. Winters said before his death that he felt Sobel was not as incompetent as portrayed in BoB.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77649 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 7:57 am to
Also, Cobb wasn't the blowhard baffoon they made him out to be. From everything I've read, he was actually a good soldier, just a really mean drunk.

quote:

Cobb, after drinking schnapps to intoxication, was arrested after assaulting Lt. Foley (the movie depicted Cobb as, instead, verbally assaulting Sgt. Martin). During processing for a court-martial, a frustrated Colonel Sink told Foley "You could have saved us all a lot of trouble. You should have shot him". Cobb was court-martialed, eventually discharged from the Army and returned to the States.

Cobb was not discharged immediately after the incident, but instead was allowed to remain with his unit until after V-E Day.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 8:27 am to
quote:

A person I’d be humbled to meet IRL



Dick Winters died in 2011 at the age of 92. He was one tough SOB. You should check out his book, it is a great guide on leadership.

Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:00 pm to
People talk too much about GOAT this and GOAT that.

This is the GOAT TV show and I'll fight you if you disagree.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:09 pm to
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36103 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

There's a reason this mini series is still so admired and so relevant, even nearly 17-plus years after it aired.


Jesus, I remember recording it on VHS.
Posted by prostyleoffensetime
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2009
11460 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 4:02 pm to
quote:

Webster was kind of a douchebag


The line “Say hello to Ford and General fricking Motors” was his only redeeming quality.

One of my favorite scenes is the conversation between Spiers and Lipton in the church after Foy.... LINK
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
4863 posts
Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:16 pm to
Documentary of interviews

We Stand Alone Together
Posted by extremetigerfanatic
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2003
5373 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 1:40 pm to
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FWIW, historians are very critical of the book to the point they do not see it as an accurate representation.

It’s pretty well documented that Ambrose relied too much on David websters memoirs. But damn the miniseries and book are based on the SOLDIERS remembrances. Not empirical data. That’s kind of the whole point. I mean it interviews the actual huge penis swinging heroes who were in those fricking foxholes in the Ardennes. Yes some people were unfairly portrayed, but even winters doesn’t really dispute much in his book. He just kind of sets the record straight on people he thought were characterized unfairly, sobel being one. Essentially though he says it happened the way it was shown. Sobel ran their asses into the ground up and down Currahee to the point the noncoms did revolt, Winters led that attack at brecourt manor, Winters did run up behind that line of Nazis. Speirs did run thru nazi held Foy to link up with another group and then ran back. Winters did fake scouting trips at the end of the war so as not to put his men in harms way.
There is not a lot to be pissed about from an historical point of view. Did they get a battalion number wrong? Yeah but it wasn’t meant to be 100% accurate. Memories aren’t and that’s what this was about.

Btw the part that always gets me is when malarkey comes back to the cleaner lady and gets his clothes then she starts handing him the bundles for all his friends that weren’t coming back and he can’t tell her and he just pays for them all!


Btw Eugene Roe the Louisianan medic feautured during the battle of the bulge episode came back from the war and had a construction company off Choctaw. A hero among us and we didn’t even know.
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