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Duzz
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
Because in Overwatch, he earned the nickname "Teabaggins."


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WicKed WayZ
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
Frodo was so pure it took the Ring a year to affect and corrupt him. It corrupted Bilbo, Gollum and others almost immediately.


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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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Sam saved Frodo many times with less selfish desires


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Big Scrub TX
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Sam did have possession of the ring and he gave it back.
Sam also wanted to kill gollum immediately.


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Zephyrius
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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Frodo for bearing the burden of carrying the ring and Sam for helping carry Frodo.

Sam "carrying" Frodo was to save his friend; Frodo carrying the ring to save the world. Which is more heroic?

Aragon became a king and Sam got his girl/ life in the Shire because of Frodo. What did Frodo get? Basically a boat ride to Hades to never see the Shire again.


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Is this a troll?


Nah, it's a hobbit, slightly different but both have hairy feet.


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13SaintTiger
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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Sam "carrying" Frodo was to save his friend; Frodo carrying the ring to save the world.


You need to rewatch the trilogy and reread the books. Sam carried Frodo thereby carrying the ring as well. As I previously mentioned, when it came down to it Frodo wasn’t giving up that ring. This pure of heart talk is absolutely ridiculous. Frodo was forced to give up the ring, not because he was pure of heart.

“Oh but it took a year for him to become corrupt” no, it took a year for Frodo to be faced with an ultimatum.

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Sam got his girl/ life in the Shire because of Frodo.


Sam got his girl because he’s the hero


Lake Vegas Tiger
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
i watched the extended cuts of LOTR trilogy this weekend, Wood's acting was terrible
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jackwoods4
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And imo Frodo needed Sam more than Sam needed Frodo


How can you take this away from LOTR? So much of the trilogy screams "together is better." It consistently shows people picking each other up when they need it most.


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It corrupted Bilbo, Gollum and others almost immediately.


Not Bilbo. He carried it for decades and then managed to hand it over to Frodo. That was a pretty heroic act.


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udtiger
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Sam is the real hero in all of this. If not for Sméagol biting Frodo’s finger off Frodo would’ve tried to get away with the ring. A real selfish pos imo. Sam saved Frodo many times with less selfish desires




Frodo carried the Ring and fought its influence into Mordor and until the very Crack of Doom (where its power [and that of its creator] was at its height). Lesser beings would have succumbed to it long before (Boromir did at the Rauros, even though he had never bore the Ring).

The purpose of the Fellowship was to assist the Ringbearer in completing his quest, which Sam did (as a member of the Fellowship, and as his friend). The fact that he did help does not detract from what Frodo did from the steps of Bag End to the Crack of Doom.

You're goddamned right he's a hero.
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SpqrTiger
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
Frodo being a hero and Sam being a hero are not mutually exclusive ideas. They are both heroes.

Sam obviously stepped forward at a time when no one else could help Frodo. He is a hero.

But do not discount Frodo. The act of being brave enough to carry the ring into Mordor was heroic. None of the other great warriors at Elrond’s council dared to accept the task. Only Frodo did.


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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
Well I've read those books ad nauseum, so let me set you straight.

First and foremost, you can't get the full experience of what Frodo was going through in the movies because his struggle was internal while every other character's struggle was external. Since you can't see and really appreciate what he's dealing with every waking moment of the journey it's easy to write him off as weak. Frodo had been resisting the Ring tearing at the very fabric of his soul more and more viciously as the end approached.

Second, NO ONE had EVER willingly given up a corrupting Ring of Power before Bilbo, and he needed all of the help Gandalf could provide him to do so, far from the heightened influence of Sauron. And you're going to fault Frodo for struggling in the heart of evil's domain? GTFO, man.

There's actually a small piece in RotK when Sam returns the Ring to Frodo after rescuing him in Cirith Ungol. He bore it for next to no time, wearing it only sparingly, and he was still reluctant to return it. And he didn't actually even do that. He held it out and Frodo TOOK the Ring. It's a subtle but large difference between that and willingly laying it down. Relinquishing it.

I'm not trying to dump on Sam or any other characters here, but no one had it as hard as Frodo. To hold so much power and choose NOT to use it is a tremendous test of will that most people have never personally experienced, and not having done so it is very hard for them to comprehend and respect the struggle.

The book described it perfectly. It is a burden. A burden of nearly unimaginable proportion. We live in a nation where our divorce rate is nearly 50% because people can't handle the comparatively small increase in responsibility from just themselves to a spouse and kids. It's hilarious that so many think Frodo was weak for being ground down by the power to seize the world and do with it as he pleased. To hold the lives of countless people both known and anonymous in his hands and give them back.

Most of us couldn't do it. It's why we developed democracy. By virtue of sharing the power we can share the burden, thereby reducing the strain on all involved.


WicKed WayZ
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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Frodo carried the Ring and fought its influence into Mordor and until the very Crack of Doom (where its power [and that of its creator] was at its height). Lesser beings would have succumbed to it long before



I think this gets lost on people as well. The Ring knew it was about to be destroyed so it was pulling out all the stops. It was also back home in Mordor in the very place it was made making it ultra potent.


udtiger
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I think this gets lost on people as well. The Ring knew it was about to be destroyed so it was pulling out all the stops. It was also back home in Mordor in the very place it was made making it ultra potent.


Not just that.

As much as I love the movies, it "papers over" (i.e., completely omits) the fact that Frodo had held (and occasionally used) the Ring for 17 years between the Party and when he (and the others) fled the Shire.


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TheTideMustRoll
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
He's a hero because he selflessly carried it as long as he could to the very place where its power was strongest in order to destroy it. An evil choice would have been to seize the Ring from the start and attempt to use it against Sauron. Even if done from a desire to do good, the power of the Ring would corrupt the wearer eventually and turn all of their works to evil. That was the choice that was portrayed as "wrong" in the books, and it was the temptation that characters like Gandalf and Galadriel, two of the most powerful beings in Middle Earth, had to face and overcome. It was the temptation that Boromir fell to. Frodo resisted that call for as long as he could, until he made the "decision" to claim it rather than destroy it at the Cracks of Doom. I don't know that it was so much a choice on his part, though, as it was the Ring itself using all of its considerable power to try and avoid destruction. Even Isildur, who occupies a much higher place than Frodo on the LotR "power" scale, fell to the same temptation in the same place.

The Ring contained most of the power of a being (Sauron) who fell just shy of being a god. No Man, Elf, or Hobbit could hope to resist that power forever.


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TygerTyger
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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13SaintTiger



You're a special kind of stupid aren't ya?


DirtyMikeandtheBoys
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
you mofrickas are so mad at 13 for bringing this up


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Arksulli
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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Well I've read those books ad nauseum, so let me set you straight.


Put your thang down sir. Put your thang down.

An excellent analysis of what when on in the books that wouldn't translate well onto the screen.

Mind you, I think Peter Jackson did extremely well given the medium he had to work with in portraying that internal battle. There are just some things you can't show on the screen.


Amblin
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re: LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
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They make it very apparent that there is no person capable of resisting the ring from Gandalf down to Samwise.


Tom Bombadil

Tom first appears when Merry and Pippin are trapped by Old Man Willow, and Frodo and Sam cry for help. Tom commands Old Man Willow to release them, singing him to sleep, and shelters the hobbits in his house for two nights. Here it is seen that the One Ring has no power over Bombadil; he can see Frodo when the Ring makes him invisible to others, and can wear it himself with no effect. He even tosses the Ring in the air and makes it disappear, but then produces it from his other hand and returns it to Frodo. While this seems to demonstrate that he has unique and mysterious power over the Ring, the idea of giving him the Ring for safekeeping is rejected in Book Two's second chapter, "The Council of Elrond". Gandalf says, rather, that "the Ring has no power over him..." and believes that Tom would not find the Ring to be very important and so might simply misplace it.


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