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LOTR thoughts: why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:03 pm
Sam is the real hero in all of this. If not for Sméagol biting Frodo’s finger off Frodo would’ve tried to get away with the ring. A real selfish pos imo. Sam saved Frodo many times with less selfish desires
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:08 pm to 13SaintTiger
Is this a troll? You do realize there was a reason why Frodo became “selfish” right?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:08 pm to 13SaintTiger
The ring was starting to corrupt him
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:11 pm to St Augustine
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Is this a troll? You do realize there was a reason why Frodo became “selfish” right?
So? Does it make my point that Sam was the real hero any less valid? Frodo would be a Sméagol if not for Sam
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:18 pm to 13SaintTiger
Well he did have the whole benefit of the ring not corrupting him. It would’ve been the other way around had Sam had possession of the ring. They were both heroes. Frodo for bearing the burden of carrying the ring and Sam for helping carry Frodo.
Hopefully that satisfies your need for attention.
Hopefully that satisfies your need for attention.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:19 pm to 13SaintTiger
No Sam is the hero because he and Aragon where the only two the resisted the evil of the ring completely.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:20 pm to 13SaintTiger
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why is Frodo portrayed as some hero?
It's a gay power thing.
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Sam is the real hero
I may not be able to carry the ring Mr. Frodo, but I can carry you.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:22 pm to 13SaintTiger
They’re both heroes. Frodo contesting Sauron’s evil primarily spiritually and Sam primarily physically by supporting Frodo.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:23 pm to St Augustine
quote:it was you Frodo
You do realize there was a reason why Frodo became “selfish” right?
you broke ny heart
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:24 pm to FreddieMac
They make it very apparent that there is no person capable of resisting the ring from Gandalf down to Samwise. Some have the foresight of refusing to deal with it (Gandalf and Aragon because they know they are susceptible)
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:25 pm to St Augustine
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Well he did have the whole benefit of the ring not corrupting him. It would’ve been the other way around had Sam had possession of the ring. They were both heroes. Frodo for bearing the burden of carrying the ring and Sam for helping carry Frodo.
Sam did have possession of the ring and he gave it back. Regardless it’s a moot point. Ring isn’t destroyed without Sam. And imo Frodo needed Sam more than Sam needed Frodo
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:27 pm to STLDawg
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Frodo contesting Sauron’s evil primarily spiritually
When faced with departing from the ring, he chose evil
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:29 pm to 13SaintTiger
It was Sam's love for Frodo that made him follow Frodo around and help him. The true moral of thr story is how the power of love can overcome anything.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:49 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Sam is the real hero in all of this
I don’t think any LotR fan is would argue against Sam the true hero. He’s the best.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 6:51 pm to athenslife101
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Some have the foresight of refusing to deal with it (Gandalf and Aragon because they know they are susceptible)
Faramir also is never tempted by the ring.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 7:01 pm to 13SaintTiger
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A real selfish pos imo.
Whoah whoah whoah. Quick pause on the gutter talk, baw. Seriously, have you even read Lord of the rings?
Posted on 1/1/18 at 7:04 pm to Froman
IN the books he is not. In the movies, he is
Posted on 1/1/18 at 7:08 pm to OMLandshark
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I don’t think any LotR fan is would argue against Sam the true hero. He’s the best.
Can't wait for the new trilogy of LOTR books where we learn Samwise has become a drunk and beats Rosie ):
#killyourheroes
Posted on 1/1/18 at 7:22 pm to 13SaintTiger
I never saw it this way, Frodo was more of a "reluctant hero", and Samwise was as well, but then grew more into the role. Lord of the Rings I think was ultimately about the hobbits, and how such humble creatures could play such major roles in the darkest of times.
I never saw LOTR as a standard hero vs villain tale necessarily, a lot at play, especially when you consider Aragorn and Gandalf's roles.
I never saw LOTR as a standard hero vs villain tale necessarily, a lot at play, especially when you consider Aragorn and Gandalf's roles.
Posted on 1/1/18 at 8:02 pm to 13SaintTiger
Frodo and Sam are both heroes. The ring doesn't get destroyed without both of them
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