re: Indiana Jones Plays No Roll in the Outcome to the Raiders of the Lost Ark Movie

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Yikes

Well if Indy hadn’t blown up the German plane they would have flown the ark back to Germany. That’s a role in the outcome.

I don’t see how the Nazis happened into the bar in Nepal, but the timing suggests that they followed Indy, thus without him maybe they never find the headpiece?

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I don’t see how the Nazis happened into the bar in Nepal, but the timing suggests that they followed Indy, thus without him maybe they never find the headpiece?

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Yeah, this dude Toht is in the plane with Indy when he leaves.

This topic was done years ago.

Indy was responsible for actually finding the ark. If not for him, nobody would've found it. The Nazis were digging in the wrong place.

disagree. if jones isn't there closing his eyes and not getting killed, the ark would have stayed on that island in the cave. People would be horribly killed and dragged to hell every once in a while by opening the ark, never leaving any witnesses, and the ark would always recover itself and reset. it would be an endless death trap, and indy prevented that.

I always thought that was his charm...the well-intentioned, but financially solo, it belongs in a museum bumbling adventurer whose better with books and in a classroom.

I mean he gets the golden idol but immediately his clueless guide steals it from him and once he escapes, its immediately taken from him by another archeologist whose well-funded.

He's terrible with the ladies, except admirers in the classroom he has to ignore for his illicit ways before...shows up to Marian's door in a remote bar in Nepal only to lead Nazis to her, almost gets Marion killed in Egypt, she's taken captive, they find the Ark but it's taken from them immediately like everything else he finds...they are left to die in a sealed tomb.

They escape, follow the Nazis, do really nothing but failed action sequences, only to get captured again and saved by the wrath of God and the Ark is put in a giant warehouse to be forgotten and never to be studied.

And the Ark is never mentioned again and Jones just moves on and really only helped or saved people after putting them in peril in the first place...and leading the bad guys to all his historical finds.

He doesn't ever really help anybody or antiquity, usually doing the opposite of his intentions.

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I know, he decided to shoot rather than fight or roll aside him.

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That scene was originally written for Indy to use his whip to disarm/defeat the sword guy. On the day of filming, Harrison Ford had a terrible case of either stomach flu or food poisoning, which gave him diarrhea. He asks Spielberg if he can just shoot the guy instead; Spielberg agrees and we get that scene.

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If he weren't in the movie the outcome would have been virtually the same.

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About the only thing his involvement resulted in:

1. Saved Marion (she would likely have been killed by the Nazis)

2. The U.S. government ended up with the Ark instead of it being out on some island in the Med.

The movie was a clever excuse for a lot of set piece action scene. The Ark, while not quite a MacGuffin because it did kill the bad guys and, indirectly, free the leads at the end, was merely a plot device to have the movie.

For that matter, the other 2 movies, Temple of Doom and Last Crusade - what changed because of those movies?

So, the Nazis had it, opened it and died. How did the Americans get it after that? Did Indiana Jones's efforts to find the Ark, lead the US officials to where the Germans were going to open it, so they could scoop it up after the Nazis faces melted off? I seriously haven't watched it in over 20 years, and can't remember.