re: If you had to bet your next paycheck, which character is Sauron?

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First of all most of my comments are directed at the directors, Showrunners, and actors who outwardly lie.

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What directors, actors and showrunners are on tigerdroppings? Go find somewhere else to bitch if that's who you're talking to. Just because you're a miserable human being doesn't mean you have to try and make others miserable you giant troll. You're a crap poster. OM hates the show and everything it stands for but at least he's having normal conversations. You don't even know how to have a normal debate with someone. You've made 1,000 posts about this show, not just Tolkien, but this show over the past month but you're so stupid that you've somehow convinced yourself that you have zero interest in it. It's embarrassing.

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me the “you haven’t even seen it“ garbage. I’ve seen enough clips

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Ahh yes, 5 hours worth of TV but the 10 minutes of YouTube tells you all you need to know to be an expert on it.

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. You've made 1,000 posts about this show, not just Tolkien, but this show over the past month but you're so stupid that you've somehow convinced yourself that you have zero interest in it. It's embarrassing.

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Who are you again? It doesn’t matter, I can tell that you don’t have the intelligence even after “a 1000 post“ to understand my position. Even after I’ve stated it crystal clearly multiple times. You just want your fantasy TV show and you don’t want anybody saying mean things (also true) about it and making you feel sad. Too bad.

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These are children who hear only bits and pieces of a story and then play make believe to fill in the gaps.

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The bloody irony.

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Like they explicitly have stated they don’t have the rights to use the name Hobbit

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Can someone link this? I keep seeing it being posted but can not find it out there on the web. Thanks

A real tearjerker right there man. Get's me every time.

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I can respect someone who has watched the show and doesn't like it or gave up on it

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I’ll say it again because apparently you need it said again. I already know the lore. I already know Tolkien and the characters he wrote. I don’t need to see this garbage to know it’s garbage.

This was predicted three years ago. When they started production AFTER Christopher Tolkien died. Then it was confirmed when they fired Tom Shippey. You don’t even know who that is, but trust me, it’s important.

1. Then they shouldn’t have spent $1 billion for a story they can’t tell.

2. That’s not literally what I am doing as I already know from what the show is about.

That’s what some of you Normies just cannot accept. It’s beyond you that anyone can understand the disrespect shown by Amazon without seeing ( or paying for ) this garbage.

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I know whotf Tom Shippey is dumbass, I've even read The Road to Middle Earth and I already knew they fired him. But thanks for the breaking news from years ago.

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You can’t even spell “who”.

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I’ll say it again because apparently you need it said again. I already know the lore. I already know Tolkien and the characters he wrote. I don’t need to see this garbage to know it’s garbage.

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Sounds like your opinion is, nothing should be adapted from books.

If you read the book, you know the tale already.

And unless you yourself do an adaptation (sometimes even then), there will be things that do not match what the reader imagines.

I think we all know what is happening here. People are angry that political issues and ideologies, and particularly some controversial or taboo stuff, are being injected into 'mainstream' or popular shows and movies. Disney seems intent on putting homosexuals in stuff marketed for children. Women are being shown as capable as men, often superior, in things like action (physical fights) where it just isn't true, no matter your beliefs. Political slants are usually left=good, right=bad.
And people are pushing back, and seem to have singled this series out to make their point.

But the thing is, this show has not been "woke". Galadriel's a badass, but there's a pathway to that... Elves have been established as far superior to humans in combat, Legolas with a bow and a couple machetes can kill 3 dozen footsoldiers and an elephant without breaking a sweat. Galadriel has been established as an elite among Elves. She probably can't take down a bunch of Elves, but should easily handle a single Troll or a half-dozen Men. After all, she's wielding a sword that weighs about 5 lbs, is far more graceful than any human (including world-class ballerinas or gymnasts), has been in her peak physical condition for thousands of years. If she trained just every other month, she still has far more skill than almost any mortal. If she trained regularly for, say, onlyh 100 years, she definitely would be better than any human... because again, her body is still ageless. You give her a thousand years to work on it, the disparity will become ridiculous.

There's nothing in Tolkien's literature covering her in combat in detail, but there's nothing explicitly saying she never did, either. And there ARE notes saying she was on site at several battles, and as repeated multiple times, there are passages that describe her as extremely athletic (an amazon), fiesty proud and defiant. And of course noted to be a leader who desired to rule.
It generally doesn't fit the normal impression of what we assume, but it does bear noting, Eowyn, a mere mortal and also a female from a ruling family, is a skilled combatant,... many of the descriptions of her mirror that of Galadriel in her earlier days.

Blacks have been cast, some people raged about that. Tolkien himself stated, when talking about Orcs, that skin color (the orcs often were black) wasn't relevant, that he focused more on "orc-ish behavior", and that there were plenty of whites (Englishmen) that displayed those traits. He made clear that he wasn't racially motivated, and that the orcs did not evolve into blacks etc in his intentions.
So, some of the casting is "inclusive", but generally has been done tastefully, and discreetly enough. Tar Miriel has dark skin, she also has straight hair, not a Fro. Nissa the dwarf is stumpy and appears to have some beard around her jowls... not a bad depiction of a dwarf. And her hair is braided. The old Harfoot dude is ... wizened by the sun, kinda leathery. They're outdoors 99% of the time, I've seen old coonasses with darker skin than some blacks.
There's no "culture" interjected in, so if you choose to let it bother you, it's merely because of their appearance.
I will mention, Hugo Weaving does not meet the 'high beauty' ascribed to the Elves in my opinion. Elves should by all rights all look like top supermodels, all way better looking than humans. There wasn't an outcry, and he did a good job. I would suggest, let's let these actors do their thing, and judge it on merit. The dude playing Arondir has been great, in my opinion; better than some of the white actors.

I understand the increasing frustration a lot of folks have, and also how some want to "fight fire with fire", but come on. Let's not incorporate cancel culture into our side.