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How Is It That Joker Has A 68% RT Critics Rating?

Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:09 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:09 pm
“Mixed to average reviews”

Aside from the brilliant character study, the movie is an engrossing society examination. It pulls back layers that reveal a lot of questions.

Yes, it is morbid and dark. But those aspects should not be determinative in their own regarding a review.

I feel the movie should have been more critically acclaimed.
Posted by Plague on Wheels
Member since May 2020
168 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:10 pm to
Surprising. It's certainly a deep dive into mental health.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115738 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:11 pm to
There is a large portion of critics that hated it for political reasons.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
36041 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:13 pm to
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How Is It That Joker Has A 68% RT Critics Rating?

Easy target for SJW wannabees who jumped on the "do we need another white guy pushed to violence movie"?
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:17 pm to
It was a MUCH better movie when it was called The King of Comedy
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
39190 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:27 pm to
It would get better reviews if it wasn't called Joker. Outside of Phoenix's acting the movie is only slightly above average. As a Batman tie in its very weak.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted by BregmansWheelbarrow
Member since Mar 2020
2628 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:30 pm to
I think people had pre conceived notions about what the movie was going to be. That it was going to be a beginning of the Batman movies and the joker building his criminal enterprise. Granted, Phoenix was great in the role, but I don’t think many people were super pumped to sit for 2 hours and watch some guy completely lose his shite.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47604 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:36 pm to
Here's some snippets of some of the "rotten" and some of the "fresh" reviews:

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For all the hype and anxiety surrounding the film, one can't help but walk away asking, all of that noise for this?


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JOKER is a beautiful but simplistically shallow tale of one man's downward spiral, tacked on to a recognisable cinematic icon. Todd Phillips's film is a Batmobile with the engine of a clown car.


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For what it is, it's gorgeously assembled, with a ragged jewel of a performance by Joaquin Phoenix at its center. The problem is, well, what it is... Joker ends up repeating itself and lap-dancing its same handful of nihilistic points again and again.


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His story wasn't interesting to me because there never was a valid option for him to chose a different path.


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Is it good? Parts of it. Did I enjoy it? Not really.


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Phoenix overcomes the self-pity inherent in the material; he gives Arthur a sweet soul, and makes it hard not to like him, and to cringe when you see his next humiliation coming. In that sense, Joker is compelling.


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Joaquin Phoenix who goes all in with another full-throttle performance full of intensity. It's not entertaining or wholly original in it's approach but it comes with a phenomenal performance.


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t is over before it begins because there is no other possible outcome than what we eventually arrive at, and Phillips and Silver don't give us an interesting enough trajectory to make up for that loss


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It's hard to say if Joker entertains. It's dark and downbeat. There are good, even great, things about it, but overall it's just a little flat. It's one of those movies you can respect, though it's a little harder to like.


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Todd Phillips can dump two cups of Taxi Driver into a bowl and slop in a cup and a half of The King of Comedy, but that doesn't make him Scorsese.


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Joker is a jumble - sometimes brilliant and sometimes trite. Among its flashes of excellence is a self-serious movie that isn't nearly as deep as it thinks it is.


I can't really disagree with any of them.
Posted by Billy Mays
Member since Jan 2009
25277 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 3:57 pm to
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How Is It That Joker Has A 68% RT Critics Rating?


It doesn't have universal appeal. The plot, the themes, the narratives - all polarizing.

The only aspect close to consensus is that Joaquin did a great job. Everything else is up for debate.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51578 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:02 pm to
The woke American critics hated it
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50767 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:03 pm to
Because it's the movie that was going to cause more mass shootings
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37263 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:25 pm to
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It would get better reviews if it wasn't called Joker. Outside of Phoenix's acting the movie is only slightly above average. As a Batman tie in its very weak.


This. It was a confusing film that I don't think knew what it wanted to be. I was thoroughly unimpressed given the audience reactions. It was pretty meh.
Posted by Saint Alfonzo
Member since Jan 2019
22163 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:28 pm to
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How Is It That Joker Has A 68% RT Critics Rating?


Because it wasn't that great of a movie. Sure, they say it emulated Taxi Driver and The King of Comedy. It should have spent a little more time imitating a Batman comic.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58063 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:29 pm to
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How Is It That Joker Has A 68% RT Critics Rating?


B/c a lot of people realized that it was really just an art house movie about a person losing their mind that had the Joker slapped on there to sell tickets.

This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 4:34 pm
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:36 pm to
RT ceased being relevant and trustworthy when it overtly changed the rules to favor reviews when Captain Mary Sue,...err. Marvel was released. It's a total shill site and not worth a damn for movie reviews.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:37 pm to
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B/c a lot of people realized that it was really just an art house movie about a person losing their mind that had the Joker slapped on there to sell tickets.


To quote your gal " It wasn't made for you "

Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
15759 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:41 pm to
I like it a lot. It was watching a super villain being born. Interesting story for an iconic character
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58063 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:43 pm to
The RT score is just a "did the reviewer like the movie" percentage. It's not the actual average review score.

A movie that gets almost all 6s and 7s can end up with a higher RT score than a movie that gets nearly all 9s and 10s from the reviewers that liked it.

The fact that people can't comprehend this doesn't make RT scores untrustworthy.
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:44 pm to
It portrayed a white man as being kicked around by society, that never happens IRL. White men are the oppressors, not the oppressed!

/s

That's why many reviewers didn't like it.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58063 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 4:45 pm to


Sorry for having the ability to tell when an IP is slapped onto a product to boost sales.
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