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re: How Is It That Joker Has A 68% RT Critics Rating?

Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
13531 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:14 pm to
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Because Rotten Tomatoes critics


There are no Rotten Tomatoes critics
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:44 pm to
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Because critics no longer give a frick how good a movie actually is, just the boxes it checks off for PC bullshite.


Do you guys appreciate the irony of comments like this?
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10616 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:53 pm to
It was an obvious homage to King Of Comedy and Taxi Driver. That is not a negative. Very dark and disturbing.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108403 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 7:55 pm to
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Do you guys appreciate the irony of comments like this?


What irony? I’m a moderate, but explain to me how Ghostbusters 2016 has a higher T-Meter than Interstellar? As I previously stated, even people that hate Interstellar have to find that to be completely insane. From Interstellar haters perspectives, it shot for the stars and tried to 1-up 2001 and failed. That is way more admirable than anything Ghostbusters did, where it made its antagonist a nerdy basement dweller because the actual fans of the series rightfully hated the direction they were taking the franchise. Ghostbusters is such petty holier than thou bullshite that I think a rational Interstellar hater would not hesitate in calling Ghostbusters a worse film than Interstellar.
Posted by DaTroof
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2015
976 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:09 pm to
You seem like a Kanye fan. Those guys will dream up all kinds of stuff to justify mediocre
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59104 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:24 pm to
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What irony?


You were lamenting people politicizing the reviews while basically saying the people that don’t like it don’t like it because they are SJWs

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but explain to me how Ghostbusters 2016 has a higher T-Meter than Interstellar?


I don’t know and don’t care, that has nothing to do with Joker being a not very good or interesting movie and worse makes what’s supposed to be Batman’s arch villain into kind of a pussy that’s just insane.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
51606 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:30 pm to
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don’t know and don’t care, that has nothing to do with Joker being a not very good or interesting movie and worse makes what’s supposed to be Batman’s arch villain into kind of a pussy that’s just insane.


Why do so many of you have an issue with a different interpretation of the character? Comic books have wildly different interpretations for all of it's heroes and villains.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 8:31 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108403 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:41 pm to
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You were lamenting people politicizing the reviews while basically saying the people that don’t like it don’t like it because they are SJWs


The American media that is true. CNN reported on the week of its release “still no theater shootings”. It’s just a fact dude that some of these “journalists” wanted a shooting just to prove themselves right.

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I don’t know and don’t care, that has nothing to do with Joker being a not very good or interesting movie and worse makes what’s supposed to be Batman’s arch villain into kind of a pussy that’s just insane.


Do I think this Joker could take on Batman and be his arch nemesis? No, but I don’t care. The film works on its own terms.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:47 pm to
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but explain to me how Ghostbusters 2016 has a higher T-Meter than Interstellar?


The math of the the way RT aggregates is the short answer. I don't like either movie, but this does seem odd on the surface. Cross check the scores with a website that aggregates with more nuance, Metacritic, and you see how misleading RT scoring can be.

Ghostbusters has a 74% on RT and a 60 on Metacritic
Interstellar has a 72% on RT and a 74 on Metacritic

Since all reviews are just + or - on RT, many of the shrugs of "decent" or "fine" that Ghostbusters received counted as positive. Also, this movie is not nearly as hated out in the real world as it is in internet corners like this one. It got very few damning reviews. It also received very few glowingly positive ones.

Interstellar also got very few negative reviews, but it had a few shrugs of "disappointment" and critics let down by intensely high expectations that were just negative enough to count against its RT score.

The lesson is stop using RT for anything. It's making you guys blame critics for imagined slights. Metacritic also doesn't use reviews from Twitter critics, the ones who produce most of the crap reviews several of you like to cherry pick when you have a gripe against critics.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 8:50 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108403 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:48 pm to
Personally I just think Interstellar was being rated in comparison to 2001 since its goal was to be that of this generation and not its own terms.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 8:49 pm
Posted by UMRealist
Member since Feb 2013
35360 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:49 pm to
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I feel the movie should have been more critically acclaimed.

I mean it was nominated for a handful of Emmy's including Picture, Director and Actor which Phoenix won.
Posted by Freauxzen
Utah
Member since Feb 2006
37279 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:49 pm to
Yeah Metacritic is far superior. I have no idea why people are still stuck on RT.
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
Member since Dec 2008
45251 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:51 pm to

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I think even people who hate Interstellar find it insane that Ghostbusters 2020 has a better score than it.


Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108403 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 8:53 pm to
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Yeah Metacritic is far superior. I have no idea why people are still stuck on RT.


Agreed. I think a lot of critics gave them both 2.5 stars, but they made them different on the T-Meter. Nothing political about Interstellar, they just thought to themselves “was this equal or better than 2001?” If they decided no, then they would give it a Rotten. When it came to Ghostbusters, I think many critics were bullied into giving it a fresh. Glad Roeper called out all the critics on their bullshite when it came to this.
Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
4841 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:04 pm to
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When it came to Ghostbusters, I think many critics were bullied into giving it a fresh.


Critics don't decide in what direction a mixed or 2.5/5 review will lean on RT. RT decides this. From the RT website:
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The team collects movie and TV reviews from Tomatometer-approved critics and publications every day, generating Tomatometer scores. Our curators carefully read these reviews, noting if the reviews are Fresh or Rotten, and choose a representative pull-quote.


Again, keeping it numbers-based would be far less misleading.
Posted by WB504
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
5873 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:10 pm to
If they gave it a different name without the Joker and comic book tie ins, the ratings would be higher but the box office numbers would decrease.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68620 posts
Posted on 5/20/20 at 9:36 pm to
Ive tried to watch it twice and just couldnt get into it. Maybe my expectations were too high.
This post was edited on 5/20/20 at 9:37 pm
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:18 am to
Political Correctness, period, end of story.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
78081 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:56 am to
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There is a large portion of critics that hated it for political reasons.
its called TDS and it infects people deeply so anything that can construe that is somehow favorable to trump they trash.

quite sad really. whole world feels like the matrix now and makes me question everything i've ever read growing up.
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
Member since Jul 2009
47608 posts
Posted on 5/21/20 at 9:57 am to
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its called TDS and it infects people deeply so anything that can construe that is somehow favorable to trump they trash.


I must have missed the scenes that were favorable to Trump.
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