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re: GoT S7 E5 "Eastwatch" MAESTERS THREAD
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:16 am to GeauxTigers2020
Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:16 am to GeauxTigers2020
shite, I wanted to see Bronn and Tyrion together again, but we got nothing there.
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Posted on 8/14/17 at 2:37 am to DrunkerThanThou
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The entire dothraki people came over with Danaerys. Jorah only hung around with khal Drogos group so most of them probably don't know him
Yeah I guess that's true. But you'd think her original group would be her "higher ups", and thus the ones to receive a visitor and present them to the queen.
But I'm probably just nit picking
Posted on 8/14/17 at 3:47 am to SEClint
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And Sam just moved up to #1 of his house.
I don't think so. If Sam follows his oaths to the Black Watch. That would make Sam Jr. the heir to Horn Hill. We know Sam Jr isn't even Sam's, he's Crastor's and Gilly's baby. Not sure how that will play out.
An aside, I think that Jaqen H'Ghar will end up killing Arya. Jaqen can't have a rouge assassin running around Westeros stealing faces. He'll be compelled to kill her by his god. Why hasn't he killed her before now? Because of professional courtesy, or because he's fond of her and is allowing her to finish her list.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 3:51 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 5:52 am to RollTide1987
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You know...it just occurred to me that, with the exception of Jamie and Bronn, just about every alpha male left in Westeros went north of the Wall at the end of tonight's episode.
The part of me who enjoys 'watching the world burn' can't help but notice that they have the potential to absolutely infuriate the fan base next week. What if they simply got tired of hearing everyone making predictions about the Hound, Gendry, Jorah, etc that they simply got all the characters together to kill them and all the fan theories at once.
Before/During the episode: "What is hype may never die!"
After the episode: "frick you D&D."
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:08 am to ohiovol
I think many of them have more story to tell.
Safe for sure
Jon - obviously
Gendry - he's been built up as a good smith and they need to forge weapons with dragon glass
Tormund - Jon's power base comes in large part from commanding a wildling army which is due in large part to Jon and Tormund being friends. They are cutting explaining things like Bronn sneaking Tyrion into the castle, no way they create a situation they actually need to explain like who Jon now convinces to get the Wildlings to follow him.
Safe Maybe
The Hound - fans aren't ready for him to die, although that is often when you get killed.
Jorah - did they really save him from greyscale to die on this mission? That just seems like a weird thing to do.
If someone is dying it's the Brotherhood. They were basically sent to help Jon succeed. They're practically red shirts in a situation where the only way everyone lives is if Drogon saves them.
Safe for sure
Jon - obviously
Gendry - he's been built up as a good smith and they need to forge weapons with dragon glass
Tormund - Jon's power base comes in large part from commanding a wildling army which is due in large part to Jon and Tormund being friends. They are cutting explaining things like Bronn sneaking Tyrion into the castle, no way they create a situation they actually need to explain like who Jon now convinces to get the Wildlings to follow him.
Safe Maybe
The Hound - fans aren't ready for him to die, although that is often when you get killed.
Jorah - did they really save him from greyscale to die on this mission? That just seems like a weird thing to do.
If someone is dying it's the Brotherhood. They were basically sent to help Jon succeed. They're practically red shirts in a situation where the only way everyone lives is if Drogon saves them.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:10 am to ohiovol
Well also consider that anyone we see die north if the wall is very likely to come back as a wight later on
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:15 am to WicKed WayZ
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Thoros
Anyone know what effect his resurrection abilities has wights?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:21 am to TigerinATL
Yeah this is a situation where anyone dying beyond the obviously BwoB guys is going to be a major plot loss for the show.
Really, Jon needs allies who believe him. Strong ones. That's the whole point of this upcoming quest.
-the hound is expendable. Sorry, but he is.
-BwoB are hardcore expendable
-tormund is safe. No secondary character to introduce as wildling king
-Jon is safe
-jorah is probably safe. The queen needs an advisor who has seen them
-gendry is probably expendable
Really, Jon needs allies who believe him. Strong ones. That's the whole point of this upcoming quest.
-the hound is expendable. Sorry, but he is.
-BwoB are hardcore expendable
-tormund is safe. No secondary character to introduce as wildling king
-Jon is safe
-jorah is probably safe. The queen needs an advisor who has seen them
-gendry is probably expendable
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:27 am to cokebottleag
quote:maybe, but I think he has business left with the Stark girls
-the hound is expendable. Sorry, but he is.
quote:yep, the guy who's been resurrected will die. It will be to show us the risk for Jon. I think he turns into a WW, not a wight.
-BwoB are hardcore expendable
quote:no, I think his arc has run. He didn't want to go back beyond the Wall.
-tormund is safe. No secondary character to introduce as wildling king
quote:I think all 3 are safe, Gendry needs to do something.
-Jon is safe
-jorah is probably safe. The queen needs an advisor who has seen them
-gendry is probably expendable
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:30 am to wildtigercat93
Thank you that was the joke.....
Posted on 8/14/17 at 6:59 am to jrowla2
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Jorah didn't notice jons sword bc he wasn't yet wearing it at dragon stone. I'm sure they'll have a convo about it at some point.
Yes he was when he met Gendry. Gendry said no have no need for a blacksmith with a sword like that. He then walks out of the cave and speaks with Jorah.
If Gendry noticed the sword, you would think the Jorah should have noticed his own sword.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:02 am to TigerintheNO
I mean the bear on the pommel and other bear markings have all been removed at this point. It is probably unrecognizable unless you see the blade
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:12 am to CorporateTiger
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I mean the bear on the pommel and other bear markings have all been removed at this point. It is probably unrecognizable unless you see the blade
he might be able to connect the dots by seeing the Wolf pommel... not many swords (and probably no Valyrian steel swords) have carved pommels regardless if bear, wolf, etc.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:13 am to WAY2GOLSU
What I find truly pathetic is that there can be no genuine discussion on the proposal of outcomes, even not having read spoilers, for fear of being chastized by those who have not the wit to see possible outcomes happening only seconds ahead of scenes shown on trailers. Or is that even trailers for next week's episode are themselves considered trailers?
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:17 am to tommy2tone1999
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What I find truly pathetic is that there can be no genuine discussion on the proposal of outcomes, even not having read spoilers, for fear of being chastized by those who have not the wit to see possible outcomes happening only seconds ahead of scenes shown on trailers. Or is that even trailers for next week's episode are themselves considered trailers?
Honestly, man... I'd rather no one talk about "predictions" for next week or the following episodes as it only muddies the water. This thread can be used for discussion of the mentioned episode in the subject line and past episodes, history, etc. among book readers.
I'm honestly not sure when this thread became the only GOT thread as the Hodor thread seems to have basically been abandoned and a lot of non-book readers have migrated into this thread. I'm ok with that, but I'm not ok with all of the "stuipd" questions, "predictions" that everyone knows are actually spoilers, etc.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:22 am to beerJeep
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But you'd think her original group would be her "higher ups", and thus the ones to receive a visitor and present them to the queen.
Here original group abandoned her after Drogo died and when they were lost in the wasteland (right?), leaving her with a small few that have likely been killed over the years.
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 7:24 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:34 am to Gugich22
People are way too sensitive and complainey in here
- not directed at you, just a lot of bitching back and forth from both sides last night and now again this morning
- not directed at you, just a lot of bitching back and forth from both sides last night and now again this morning
This post was edited on 8/14/17 at 7:39 am
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:45 am to FT
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Beric - Lives
quote:
Thoros - Dies
Doesn't make a lot of sense when you consider in the novels it's the opposite already. More likely Beric or both die, IMHO.
Also, recall that Jon didn't even go to Hardhome in the novels, Tormund did. I think that implies that Tormund survived - but he could die now.
I think Beric, Thoros and Tormund die on this mission.
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:45 am to 19
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quote:
Jorah didn't notice jons sword bc he wasn't yet wearing it at dragon stone. I'm sure they'll have a convo about it at some point.
And I think Jorah has no clue about it. I've never bought Joer's story about a Mormont blade. It wasn't a bear on the pommel, it was a dragon.
It's either Dark Sister or even Blackfyre.
Holy shite!!!! I just read up on this and it is awesome. It's my new favorite theory.
Reddit Link to theory
Posted on 8/14/17 at 7:49 am to Ace Midnight
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I think Beric, Thoros and Tormund die on this mission.
YOU SHUT YOUR DAMN MOUTH
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