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re: GOT: A Man Without Honor (NO SPOILERS)

Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:37 pm to
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Possible SPOILERS



Well, I just finished reading the first book recently and certain scenes viewed with this theory in mind change the thought process dramatically. Notable Lyanna's dying in Ned's arms saying "Promise me". That pretty much confirmed the theory in my mind.


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[Spoilers end]
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:41 pm to
platinum-blonde, per the spice trader of QARTH!
Posted by NaturalBeam
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:44 pm to
My wife thinks that Jon Snow is Robert Baratheon's bastard, and that Ned agreed to hide Jon as his own as a backup insurance policy to the throne
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 1:50 pm to
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Well, no way Snow is really a Targaryan then right? What am I missing?




The platinum blonde hair is a Targ trait, but the Targs also had a ton of inbreeding which led to it being commonplace. Lyanna was dark haired like the rest of the Starks.


Maybe a small unimportant book spoiler related to this.....







At a couple points it's said Arya looks alot like Lyanna at that age, and Arya and Jon are mentioned to look very similar.
Posted by Jimbeaux
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:08 pm to
Does anyone else find this season to be a good bit slower than last season? (too slow)

I'm starting to get sick of some of the story lines. Daneris is becoming more insufferable by the episode, and the little Stark girl has been serving food and wine to Lanister for three straight episodes with not enough pay off. Will someone kill Theon Grayturd and Jeoffry "Son-of-Sam" Baratheon (Lansiter) already! I need more Tyrrian Lanister scenes, and Rob Stark kicking arse, and I want to hear more about that murdering shadow demon, and that smoking hot evil mother of "its".
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:20 pm to
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and the little Stark girl has been serving food and wine to Lanister for three straight episodes with not enough pay off.


couldn't disagree with this more. Love the Arya story line. The assassin working for her in Harrenhall is awesome. Wonder if she tells him to kill Tywin next?
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:25 pm to
Can we please stop posting "possible spoilers" or "small spoilers from the books" or any other fricking type of spoilers..? This thread is supposed to be spoiler free. It would suck if it turned into a walking dead thread.
Posted by CocomoLSU
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:28 pm to
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Does anyone else find this season to be a good bit slower than last season? (too slow)

I do. I believe I mentioned it earlier. Since there are only ten episodes, there can't be much filler, and I feel like there's a lot of filler.

Also, I don't need "nonstop action" and do appreciate character development, but SOME action would be nice. Some glimpses into all these battles I keep hearing them talk about on the show..
Posted by davesdawgs
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:30 pm to
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Does anyone else find this season to be a good bit slower than last season? (too slow)

I'm starting to get sick of some of the story lines. Daneris is becoming more insufferable by the episode, and the little Stark girl has been serving food and wine to Lanister for three straight episodes with not enough pay off. Will someone kill Theon Grayturd and Jeoffry "Son-of-Sam" Baratheon (Lansiter) already! I need more Tyrrian Lanister scenes, and Rob Stark kicking arse, and I want to hear more about that murdering shadow demon, and that smoking hot evil mother of "its".


I agree to some extent. I'm a third of the way through the 4th book and it has become a bit tiresome; really enjoyed the first 3 books though. I can't imagine what the show will be like once it gets to the 4th book. I think the problem for the TV show relates to a quote from LotR:

“I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter, scraped over too much bread.
- Bilbo Baggins on the occasion of his 111st Birthday”
J.R.R. Tolkien

Basically the show is trying to coordinate too many story arcs over too short of a time period. If they continue to do this, they should make every episode 2 hours long to allow for more meaningful character development.
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 2:36 pm
Posted by SaintEB
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:32 pm to
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but SOME action would be nice


Well, all of the big stuff happened in the last two episodes of season 1. So, I expect things to pick up in this area. Also, Tyrian made mention to Cersi that Stannis' ships are 4-5 days away. I imagine shite will hit the fan real soon.
Posted by saintsfan92612
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:53 pm to
Looking at the maps, why is Stannis' army coming by ship? Didn't he pretty much triple his manpower by absorbing all of Renly's army(except the Tyrells). It looks like the trip from Storm's End to Kings Landing is much quicker by land then by sea.

Or is there a land army and sea army?
Posted by NIH
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:54 pm to
King's Landing is pretty much protected by Blackwater Bay. Take the bay and you take the city.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 2:57 pm to
well, considering the entire populace of the city seems to hate the Lannisters. I think a siege would be smarter. I mean, the people are already starving. Sooner or later someone will open the gates for Stannis even without the shadow killer.

ETA: of course the navy would still be there to keep trade ships away
This post was edited on 5/15/12 at 2:58 pm
Posted by chryso
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 3:17 pm to
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All this speculation has me wanting to read the books. I'm tired of not knowing what's going to happen.


Book or no book there are always more questions in this series.
Posted by TigerintheNO
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 3:37 pm to
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Or is there a land army and sea army?


yes
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
30539 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 3:50 pm to
So, does the title of the episode refer to Jamie or Theon?

Jamie who betrayed every oath he's ever taken, but never fricked anyone but his sister...

or

Theon who...has no redeeming quality whatsoever
Posted by Jwodie
New Orleans
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 3:58 pm to
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Once Upon a Time is much better than GOT


Posted by:

quote:

TulaneTigerFan


in this thread:

LINK

Someone grab the pitchforks...
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/15/12 at 4:04 pm to
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Someone grab the pitchforks...



This


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Posted by:


quote:


TulaneTigerFan


Nevermind, not worth it.
Posted by TopWaterTiger
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Member since May 2006
12410 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 4:12 pm to
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So, does the title of the episode refer to Jamie or Theon?


or Jon Snow. The bastard son who has taken vows, but spent the whole show talking sex with the wildling.

or reference to Ned Stark as was said during the show.

or the new King of Quarth

or really any important man in GoT.

But I think it was about Jamie.
Posted by DanglingFury
Living the dream
Member since Dec 2007
20475 posts
Posted on 5/15/12 at 4:33 pm to
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Jamie


When he was talking about vows, and said "what if your father hates the king," was he talking about the Mad King or Robert?
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