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re: Game of Thrones S8E5 "The Bells" is officially the worst reviewed GOT episode yet
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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remember, the NK was revealed to be worthless this season. he has no real literary value and should be discarded
You could replace NK with Jaime Lannister and it would still be true. Damn :/
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Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:47 am to CCT
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If it were a ten-episode final season the trolls would be drowning out any praise with screams of “Boring filler shite” without one frick being given to “character development.”
Those types of complaints were virtually nonexistent during the first 7 seasons so why would they come up in a 10 episode final season? The only reason there are so many complaints about filler episodes this season is because we only get 6 episodes and there are just too many contrivances being made to get characters where they need to be to continue the plot. Whereas in a 6 episode season if we didn't have those filler episodes - looking at you episode 2 - maybe there wouldn't need to be so many leaps of logic to keep the plot moving.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:48 am to RB10
quote:Well it doesn’t really matter if she was truly betrayed or not, as long as she thinks that she was. Just like it doesn’t matter if you committed a crime or not, if the police, prosecutors, and jury think you did.
She may feel betrayed
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 8:52 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:48 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Did ya miss when Tyrion said someone betrayed Dany and she said “Jon” at the beginning of the last episode?
Did you miss where Tyrion dismissed that notion and said it was Varys, who'd actually betrayed her?
Again, just because she felt betrayed doesn't mean she actually was. She was betrayed in the same way a a child is "betrayed" because they didn't get the toy they wanted at Christmas.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:49 am to MFn GIMP
quote:This is bull. I actually remember people complaining about the filler and that was when I only perused the discussions.
Those types of complaints were virtually nonexistent during the first 7 seasons so why would they come up in a 10 episode final season?
Just like I remember people complaining about Dany, both as a character and her plot. In fact, they basically complained that her whole story line was pointless filler when she spent 6 seasons in Essos.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 8:50 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:49 am to RB10
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Did you miss where Tyrion dismissed that notion and said it was Varys, who'd actually betrayed her?
And then Dany clearly states how Jon betrayed her
Do y’all even pay attention to the show, or do you hop on here as fast as you can to shite on it?
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:51 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I don't think Jon told Arya and Sansa. Bran did so that Jon could technically not betray her.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:51 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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And then Dany clearly states how Jon betrayed her
Do y’all even pay attention to the show, or do you hop on here as fast as you can to shite on it?
"Again, just because she felt betrayed doesn't mean she actually was."
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:52 am to RB10
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Again, just because she felt betrayed doesn't mean she actually was."
:roflmao:
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:53 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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:roflmao:
This is exactly how I thought you'd react to a logical point.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:53 am to 3nOut
quote:I guess I get that longtime fans have strong feelings about the writing and overall direction of the series, and I agree that seasons 7 and 8 (especially 8) haven't been anything special. Just don't get the hate for the last episode. Yes they could have done more to credibly build toward Daenerys' turn to "madness" (in reality, she's always just had a penchant for cruelty when she deemed it necessary) but the underpinnings have been there almost from the first. The other stuff. Euron, Jaime, Cleganebowl. Whatever.
I agree. I hate the outcome, but that was one of the best episodes in GoT history.
Euron was annoying. Jaime was always Cersei's bitch. Let the fans have their big stupid fight.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:54 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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And then Dany clearly states how Jon betrayed her
Do y’all even pay attention to the show, or do you hop on here as fast as you can to shite on it?
I think you're starting to argue two different things here. Dany feels betrayed. Yes that is clear.
The next question is did Jon actually betray her? He said I'm telling my family. She said don't. He never said, ok I won't. He did not lie to her about his intentions, I do not think him doing something she doesn't want him to do is an act of betrayal. Like someone else said, that's just her not getting her way.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:54 am to RB10
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This is exactly how I thought you'd react to a logical point.
You and SFP completely whiffed on your points, and I’m the one who looks bad?
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:54 am to RB10
An insane person feels betrayed by their lover who simultaneously took away her identity and claim and disseminated that information when she specifically told him not to and you believe that she would behave rationally to that.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:54 am to marinebioman
quote:True, and it’s really irrelevant whether he betrayed her or not, if she thinks he did. In fact, it’s arguably more important that THE TRUTH is seen as a betrayal, especially when her justification for her entitled right to the throne was she was her TRUE CLAIM.
I don't think Jon told Arya and Sansa. Bran did so that Jon could technically not betray her.
This post was edited on 5/14/19 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:55 am to buckeye_vol
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Maybe the writing has been fine, if not good, all along with little deviation in its quality.
Heh
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:55 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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You and SFP completely whiffed on your points, and I’m the one who looks bad?
You look bad because you can't separate her feeling betrayed by Jon with her actually having been betrayed by Jon.
These are two very different things.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:56 am to RB10
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"Again, just because she felt betrayed doesn't mean she actually was."
That's dumb. If she felt and thought she was betrayed, then that makes the betrayal real to her and affects her actions.
Enough about Dany. How about the fact that the only reason they sent Arya with the Hound was so we could have a character we care about running around in the destruction of King's Landing. That a contrivance if there ever was one. I guess watching nobody women and children being blown up and burning wouldn't be enough to drive the point home that Dany did something terrible.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:57 am to Adam Banks
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An insane person feels betrayed by their lover who simultaneously took away her identity and claim and disseminated that information when she specifically told him not to and you believe that she would behave rationally to that.
How many times does it have to be explained that her feeling betrayed is not the same thing as her actually being betrayed?
Does she feel like Jon betrayed her? Yes. He refused to give her what she wanted.
Was she actually betrayed? No.
Posted on 5/14/19 at 8:58 am to engvol
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She literally said she would rule by love or fear and when John rejected her she said “fear it is” That’s a pretty big fricking clue as to what is going to happen.
A lot were too busy posting in the in game thread about how pissed they were about the leaks to pay attention to anything like that
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