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re: Game of Thrones S7 E7 "The Dragon and the Wolf" MAESTERS THREAD NO SPOILERS
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:06 am to ell_13
Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:06 am to ell_13
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If you want to get more specific, it's really a Maester thing, right? So it's maester at location X sending it to another maester at location Y. That's important because lords/kings/queens are often traveling.
Right, it's destination based, not person.
How do the ravens work in GOT?
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Here are some facts about ravens: 1) Most ravens are trained to fly to only one castle. So, maesters have different ravens marked for Storm's End, or Winterfell, or Casterly Rock.
2) The raven that carries a reply is not always the same raven that was sent with the original message. For example, if I'm at Winterfell and send a raven to Storm's End, the one who returns with a reply is not my original raven. Instead, it is a different raven, one that's trained to fly to Winterfell.
3) Some rare ravens can be trained to fly between two specific castles, such as Storm's End and Winterfell. This type of raven is an exception to case 2 stated above, and can carry replies.
4) Some extremely rare ravens can memorize the names of four to five castles, and fly to any of them by voice command. Such a raven comes along only once every century.
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Posted on 8/23/17 at 11:45 am to studentsect
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In the GOT world, most ravens have one route (or maybe its one "home" and have to be physically taken to other destinations, I can't quite remember). But there are some ravens that can be trained to deliver to multiple destinations, and these are considered more valuable.
So "sending a Raven to Daenerys" really means "releasing a Dragonstone raven" or "instructing an elite raven to go to Dragonstone".
This is how I have always interpreted the ravens as well.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 12:14 pm to Perrydawg
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That bitch Ollie killed the best archer that the wildlings had
The "Brothers without Banners" had that one dude who could put the arrow anywhere. That would be my choice.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 12:32 pm to Drunken Crawfish
I think it's fair game.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:43 pm to weagle99
I'm wondering if they could use another Dragon Scorpion and put Dragonglass Arrows in it to shoot at the Night King and Viserion.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:50 pm to studentsect
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For example, if I'm at Winterfell and send a raven to Storm's End, the one who returns with a reply is not my original raven. Instead, it is a different raven, one that's trained to fly to Winterfell.
So how does the one who brought the original message get back to where he came from if he only knows how to fly to one place?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:51 pm to The Godfather
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So how does the one who brought the original message get back to where he came from if he only knows how to fly to one place
checkmate
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:52 pm to The Godfather
quote:People manually transport them while traveling.
So how does the one who brought the original message get back to where he came from if he only knows how to fly to one place?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:55 pm to ohiovol
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People manually transport them while traveling.
Well that's very inefficient
So when the citadel releases hundreds of ravens in all different directions they all have to be brought back manually?
Posted on 8/23/17 at 1:55 pm to The Godfather
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So how does the one who brought the original message get back to where he came from if he only knows how to fly to one place?
In a cage, by horse....that's generally how it worked in the real world as well; pigeons would be manually taken somewhere and then fly "home" with a message attached (hence the name "homing pigeon").
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:22 pm to thatoneguy
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I think it's fair game.
we know from the preview that cersei and jon will meet
imagine if she knew (knows?) who jon really is
1) he's the son of lyanna stark, who robert loved instead of her
2) he's the son of rhaegar targaryen, who cersei wanted to marry instead of robert
so far we think only bran knows the truth...that cant be possible, can it? somebody else has got to be privy to this info
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:27 pm to The Godfather
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Well that's very inefficient
So when the citadel releases hundreds of ravens in all different directions they all have to be brought back manually?
How do you people think this works in real life, if GOT ravens are blowing yalls minds?
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Pigeon post is the use of homing pigeons to carry messages. Pigeons were effective as messengers due to their natural homing abilities. The pigeons were transported to a destination in cages, where they would be attached with messages, then naturally the pigeon would fly back to its home where the owner could read their mail. They have been used in many places around the world. Pigeons have also been used to great effect in military situations, and are in this case referred as war pigeon.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:30 pm to studentsect
I know that with dragons and magic undead ice warriors, thinking that manual return of ravens is unbelievable, but it makes some things hard to swallow. In wartime, how does a Lord send multiple messages over time to the same castle? I get that he could have several birds, but then his rookery would have to be enormous to house enough ravens considering all of the castles in Westeros. And rookeries have never been described as large places. During war, is a guy loaded down with birdcages supposed to just waltz through enemy lines over hundreds of leagues and return the birds no problem? Communication would never go as smooth as it does in the books and show.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:37 pm to Shiftyplus1
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I know that with dragons and magic undead ice warriors, thinking that manual return of ravens is unbelievable, but it makes some things hard to swallow. In wartime, how does a Lord send multiple messages over time to the same castle? I get that he could have several birds, but then his rookery would have to be enormous to house enough ravens considering all of the castles in Westeros. And rookeries have never been described as large places. During war, is a guy loaded down with birdcages supposed to just waltz through enemy lines over hundreds of leagues and return the birds no problem? Communication would never go as smooth as it does in the books and show.
This is how it worked in real life. This is hilarious.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:38 pm to Methuselah
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His sword is drawn.
That's what jumped out to me as well. There could be a reasonable explanation, he's about to kill the wight, or maybe something else is going down... I'm afraid to speculate too much.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:46 pm to JoeHackett
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There could be a reasonable explanation
Last week the Hound with Gendry's Hammer made Gendry dying the "too obvious to be right" conclusion. While many of us thought up other reasons for it, I don't think anyone came up with "Run back to Eastwatch to call in air support".
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:49 pm to TigerinATL
Posted on 8/23/17 at 2:58 pm to monkeybutt
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Pigeon post is the use of homing pigeons to carry messages. Pigeons were effective as messengers due to their natural homing abilities. The pigeons were transported to a destination in cages, where they would be attached with messages, then naturally the pigeon would fly back to its home where the owner could read their mail. They have been used in many places around the world. Pigeons have also been used to great effect in military situations, and are in this case referred as war pigeon.
Anyone that watched the final season of "The Leftovers" watched this in action.
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:08 pm to wildtigercat93
Those are from like 6 years ago
Posted on 8/23/17 at 4:09 pm to Fun Bunch
Why would you tell me that
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