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re: Ep3 season 8 GOT Battle of Winterfell

Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by WestCoastAg
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:37 pm to
this is the worst episode in the shows history and the writing is terrible
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:38 pm to
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Maybe he’s going to be at KL’s because that’s what Bran’s vision of the dragon flying over KL was. That’s also the only way I can see the dead losing at Winterfell.

i think eventually thats what will happen.
at winterfell though, what does the NK really need to be there for? there's nothing he can do there except put himself and his dragon in harms way

what WOULD be cool though is if he swooped in on viserion to draw dany and/or jon's dragons away from the fight. you know that jon at least would want to follow him.
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:43 pm to
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there's not 100,000 dothraki at winterfell. i'm not sure where that number is coming from
It's a common sense figure; it was stated somewhere that she had about that many Dothraki in the horde now following her, after she burned the Kals. She had an enormous fleet transporting them to Dragonstone. Yes, most of the fleet got wiped out by Euron (taking Yara, outside of Casterly Rock), but the Dothraki weren't involved either time.
She'd held them out of battle on Tyrion's advice prior to hitting the Lannister forces coming back from the sack of Highgarden. Even accounting for heavy casualties in that (which didn't seem to be the case), that was the only conflict they've been in, so their forces shouldn't have dropped.

And now, they're riding to fight the army of the Dead. Dany has seen this army firsthand, they killed one of her dragons. It makes no sense at all to hold someone in reserve for the battle against Cersei, when you're trying to prevent the fricking apocalypse. Any remaining force after a loss at Winterfell could not stop the dead, plus Dany stands a 50/50 chance of dying if they lose that battle (Drogon gives her a solid chance of escape, even at the last minute).

Short version- given the stakes of the battle of Winterfell, you gotta go all-in.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:49 pm to
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She had an enormous fleet transporting them to Dragonstone. Yes, most of the fleet got wiped out by Euron

so who was in on-board in the "most of the fleet"?
Posted by Green Chili Tiger
Lurking the Tin Foil Hat Board
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:50 pm to
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Where's Pod's magical cock?




Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:51 pm to
The Dornish army
Posted by Dizz
Member since May 2008
15980 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:53 pm to
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In before the bitching.



This show is terrible they didn't kill off every single notable character during the battle. There are some people who will be pissed if the Hot Pie isn't the only person in the kingdoms left alive after episode 3.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:54 pm to
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at winterfell though, what does the NK really need to be there for? there's nothing he can do there except put himself and his dragon in harms way


Couldn't you say the same thing about King's Landing though? If he doesn't need to be present at the battle at Winterfell, why would he need to be there at KL? I'm thinking he needs to be with his army to lead them in battle, but it wouldn't be the first time I've been way off when guessing about this show/books
Posted by Lawyered
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:55 pm to
shite my bad.. aside from the WW/ Wights snafoo... the question still stands.
Posted by MickeyLikesDags21
Member since Apr 2019
6641 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:56 pm to
Has the potential effectiveness of iron been discussed at all?

We know steel doesn't do a damn thing. But what about iron?

Old nan once said "In that darkness, the Others came for the first time ... They were cold things, dead things, that hated iron"

This also plays into the crypts where it was mentioned numerous times that "statues of the dead lords of the castle have iron swords resting on the laps..."

Iron islands, Iron throne, Iron.

I think the conclusion will reveal obvious foreshadowing throughout the series. What if the answer was something this in your face?
Posted by Dead End
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Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 1:58 pm to
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This show is terrible they didn't kill off every single notable character during the battle. There are some people who will be pissed if the Hot Pie isn't the only person in the kingdoms left alive after episode 3.



It's too slow. It's too fast. I'm done after this season.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
128134 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:00 pm to
What a terrible episode.

The writing is so bad.

I hated that dialogue.

I haven't liked this show in 5 seasons I only watch it for the lulz.

I think I covered a lot here.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46876 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:00 pm to
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The Dornish army

you sure?
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However, Ellaria herself is captured and imprisoned in King's Landing after Euron Greyjoy attacked the fleet transporting her back to Dorne for the army, leaving the region leaderless.

i'm almost sure they were on the way to dorne to pick up the army, not on the way back
Posted by TheeRealCarolina
Member since Aug 2018
17925 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:05 pm to
Dany picked up 100,000 Dothraki at Vaes Dothrak, but that doesn’t mean all 100k are warriors. She probably left a chunk behind that weren’t warriors in Meereen, some are still holding Dragonstone, and they lost some raiding the caravan.

Depending on how the night king and crew plan to attack, I know a great strategy they could use to defeat them as well, provided Dany and Aegon can occupy the night king and viseryion long enough.
Posted by 1BamaRTR
In Your Head Blvd
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:05 pm to
It just doesn’t make sense that she has a 100K at Winterfell. Nothing has suggested that. Again if she did then their whole formation on that battle map would’ve been way different. 100K Dothraki would’ve been enough to cover the entire front line and sides a couple levels deep instead of just the very tip as shown by the map. The map is likely not to scale but it would make no sense to distort it to that extreme.

And it does matter if she has a 100K or not because it would give the living a massive advantage if they did. The writers seem to be going for putting the living at a dire situation.
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:11 pm to
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Couldn't you say the same thing about King's Landing though? If he doesn't need to be present at the battle at Winterfell, why would he need to be there at KL?

what could the army at KL do about an undead dragon?
they could shoot spears at viserion all day and it wouldnt matter

the NK could take KL by himself in a couple of hours.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78363 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:29 pm to
Ok good point either way, the Dothraki were noton the ships then right?
This post was edited on 4/25/19 at 2:46 pm
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:34 pm to
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the Dothraki were on the ships then right?

SOMEBODY was on them...
i just assumed they were dothraki or unsullied, and we've seen massive formations of the latter, and only bits and pieces of the former
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:38 pm to
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this is the worst episode in the shows history and the writing is terrible


fast forward is your friend, i found it very helpful watching season 1 to season 7, before new season started.

a lot of useless drivel that you can ff thru.

And this past weeks episode was horrible, it was like they just shoved shite in, to fill the time space.
Posted by King George
Member since Dec 2013
6006 posts
Posted on 4/25/19 at 2:44 pm to
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this is the worst episode in the shows history and the writing is terrible
Not sure if you're trolling or if you don't know how to work the remote
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