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Doug and Carrie Heffernan
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:49 pm
Has there ever been a couple who seemed to hate each other more? Carrie seemed to always complain about Doug and mention cheating on him. Doug just wanted to be fat and hated Carrie nagging the whole time. Seems like the worst match in TV history.
Carrie in the first 4-5 seasons was an absolute smoke show too
Carrie in the first 4-5 seasons was an absolute smoke show too
Posted on 10/28/26 at 8:53 pm to AZTiger7072
Geez. Whats the downvote record on this board
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:01 pm to AZTiger7072
Ray and Debra Barrone have to be in this conversation.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:02 pm to Tigerdew
Yep Ray and Deb is a good call haha
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:03 pm to GregMaddux
Why downvote? You don’t agree?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:13 pm to AZTiger7072
quote:They apparently hated each other offscreen, w/KJ giving producers an "Either she goes or I go" ultimatum at one point.
Has there ever been a couple who seemed to hate each other more?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:20 pm to Kafka
Really never heard that?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:21 pm to AZTiger7072
It’s one of my favorite sitcoms to watch mindlessly at night. But as I reached 40…. They just seem to hate each other so much haha
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:24 pm to AZTiger7072
quote:Do you mean "Really? I've never heard that" or "You've really never heard that?"
Really never heard that?
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:32 pm to Kafka
Not according to the Googles. That says KJ & LR are close friends. TIFWIW
Posted on 10/28/26 at 9:38 pm to SoFla Tideroller
quote:All I can say is I saw a tabloid cover at the time
Not according to the Googles. That says KJ & LR are close friends.
people argue and reconcile
and argue again
sometimes John Cleese and Eric Idle are friends. At other times Cleese has said things like "Eric Idle gives disloyalty a bad name"
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:01 pm to AZTiger7072
Seems like most TV couples are like that. Its almost like Hollywood may have some kind of agenda to make marriage look as unappealing as possible. Hmmn.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:17 pm to Tigersforthee
I meant like… really? I have never heard that!
I mean Carrie might be a psycho with her Tom Cruise and her abduction Into Scientology during that period?
Her E true Hollywood would be pretty interesting
I mean Carrie might be a psycho with her Tom Cruise and her abduction Into Scientology during that period?
Her E true Hollywood would be pretty interesting
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:24 pm to Kafka
quote:
They apparently hated each other offscreen,
So if they "Hated each other" why did season 2 of James's new show Kevin can Wait kill off his TV wife to bring Ole Carrie back?
OP- Not sure there was "hate" but Arthur didn't help the relationship.
Posted on 10/28/26 at 10:44 pm to Tigersforthee
quote:
Seems like most TV couples are like that. Its almost like Hollywood may have some kind of agenda to make marriage look as unappealing as possible. Hmmn.
Or, the show would be pretty boring if the loving couple never fought. The conflict brought out all the comedy. It was a great formula. Relatable marital conflict, Artur in the middle, makeup at the end of the episode.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:15 am to AZTiger7072
*makes fart noise with my hand to my mouth*
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:22 am to AZTiger7072
They didn’t have kids to frame stories around. A sitcom about a simple married couple with no kids who got along great all the time probably wouldn’t be very good, so they created the dynamic OP is referencing.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:51 am to Kafka
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They apparently hated each other offscreen, w/KJ giving producers an "Either she goes or I go" ultimatum at one point.
I always find this weird, because he got the actress playing his wife in his new series fired so they could bring in Leah Remini.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 6:59 am to Sus-Scrofa
quote:
They didn’t have kids to frame stories around. A sitcom about a simple married couple with no kids who got along great all the time probably wouldn’t be very good, so they created the dynamic OP is referencing.
This. Doug messing up and Carrie getting mad was the funny dynamic. What happened at the end? Did they end up splitting up or at least they were about to, which was kind of the natural and logical progression of that relationship. Great show. Brining in Arthur was the final piece.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 7:05 am to AZTiger7072
I love that show. Now that I'm older and understand husband/wife dynamics better and am more aware of in-law dynamics, I enjoy King of Queens and Everybody Loves Raymond more now than I did then.
I love King of Queens. It was a time on TV where the men are always dumb and goofy. So that is why the dynamic was the way it is with Carrie, with Doug being a 30 yr old kid. So much is relatable but I never looked at Carrie as a nag....she was usually on point with Doug. I think she was pregnant for one of the seasons and you could see a distinct change in dress and appearance.
She almost got the Courney Cox character on Friends, IIRC.
I love King of Queens. It was a time on TV where the men are always dumb and goofy. So that is why the dynamic was the way it is with Carrie, with Doug being a 30 yr old kid. So much is relatable but I never looked at Carrie as a nag....she was usually on point with Doug. I think she was pregnant for one of the seasons and you could see a distinct change in dress and appearance.
She almost got the Courney Cox character on Friends, IIRC.
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