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re: Doug and Carrie Heffernan
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:06 am to MorbidTheClown
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:06 am to MorbidTheClown
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She chose to live there. Ray warned her against it but, she wouldn't hear it. Now she pays the price for ignoring her husband
True, but she had no idea what she was getting herself into. Remember that her parents were divorced so she viewed Raymond's family as a traditional, loving family that supported each other. How was she to know what she was in for?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:08 am to AZTiger7072
I can't remember...was she in Stuff or Maxim?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:11 am to SoDakHawk
quote:I thought they didn't get divorced until later in the series?
Remember that her parents were divorced so she viewed Raymond's family as a traditional, loving family that supported each other.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:14 am to Fewer Kilometers
I thought she came from divorced parents. Either way, doesn't matter, the show makes it clear that she always wanted a traditional, tight relationship with her mother, which she never got, and felt she could have that with Marie.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 11:21 am to guzziguy
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I can't remember...was she in Stuff or Maxim?
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:02 pm to SoDakHawk
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How was she to know what she was in for?
She could've listened to Ray who told her it was a bad idea, but she never listens to Ray. Ray was a goober, and he did deserve some scorn. However, the way she treated him as a man-baby while he provided for the entire family made her pretty unlikeable.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:19 pm to AZTiger7072
Al & Peg enter the conversation
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:40 pm to DestrehanTiger
I never came away disliking Debra. She had her faults but the stuff she had to deal with from Marie and Ray would make anybody crazy.
The manipulating that Marie did was crazy and I was sort unaware of it till re-watching it later in life and after seeing it 1st hand in our lives, I now relate.
The manipulating that Marie did was crazy and I was sort unaware of it till re-watching it later in life and after seeing it 1st hand in our lives, I now relate.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 12:44 pm to jp4lsu
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I never came away disliking Debra. She had her faults but the stuff she had to deal with from Marie and Ray would make anybody crazy.
The manipulating that Marie did was crazy and I was sort unaware of it till re-watching it later in life and after seeing it 1st hand in our lives, I now relate.
I absolutely agree with the Marie aspect. She dealt with a ton. The manipulation is so much more apparent a an adult. However, from the same viewpoint of being older, her condescension with Ray is more annoying as well.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:35 pm to UnoMe
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Not sure there was "hate" but Arthur didn't help the relationship.
This was always my take. How can Carrie ever win an argument or have a complaint against Doug when he has to put up with Arthur
Posted on 10/29/26 at 2:47 pm to AZTiger7072
Spoilers I guess
Didn't Doug and Carrie break up at the end or at least come close? I can't remember the ending
Didn't Doug and Carrie break up at the end or at least come close? I can't remember the ending
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:09 pm to jp4lsu
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The manipulating that Marie did was crazy
This.
To tie it to this thread, there is an episode of KOQ where Marie comes to pick up Ray when he was playing golf with Doug.
She has to wait at the house with Carrie. Carrie is cleaning, and Marie points out how she's doing it wrong. So, Carrie gets her to basically clean their house 'teaching' her the correct way. Pretty funny episode...
Posted on 10/29/26 at 4:47 pm to nes2010
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I liked the one where Doug's dad starts going through their closet and figures out how much Carrie is spending on clothes and shoes.
One of my favorites with Doug's parents was the one where they kept replacing the family dog w/ a new one of the same breed so they wouldn't have to tell him his dog died and Carrie breaks the news to him. And I was wrong about Arthur, he appeared in S1 E 1.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:10 pm to rebelrouser
quote:At a wedding, Doug takes one of the guest disposable cameras into the bathroom to take dick pics, thinking that only the couple will see them. The joke goes off the tracks when the couple decides to open the developed pictures in front of the entire extended family.
One of my favorites
Everyone blames Doug's cousin Danny, but when Carrie realizes the truth, she pushes Doug to confess.
But then she realizes that everyone is laughing at the size of "little Doug", and advises Doug to let Danny take the fall.
Posted on 10/29/26 at 5:17 pm to Fewer Kilometers
The episode where Carrie worked at IPS during the Holidays and drove Doug insane was classic, one of my favs.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 1:38 pm to hogwildinhouston
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o tie it to this thread, there is an episode of KOQ where Marie comes to pick up Ray when he was playing golf with Doug.
She has to wait at the house with Carrie. Carrie is cleaning, and Marie points out how she's doing it wrong. So, Carrie gets her to basically clean their house 'teaching' her the correct way. Pretty funny episode...
What???? I never saw this.
I knew Kevin James had been in some ELR episodes, but I didn't know it was the character Doug Heffernan and certainly didn't see this episode.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 3:24 pm to rebelrouser
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One of my favorites
Doug and Arthur found out Carrie was much nicer and agreeable if she had a drink or two when she got home, so the started having happy hour every night and getting her drunk so they could do what they wanted.
Or the one where Doug goes cheap on the eye surgery plan for Carrie and she's blind for a week.
Posted on 10/30/26 at 10:58 pm to AZTiger7072
The episodes where he lies his arse off and she catches him in spectacular fashion never get old 
Posted on 10/30/26 at 11:04 pm to Tiger Ugly
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Doug and Arthur found out Carrie was much nicer and agreeable if she had a drink or two when she got home, so the started having happy hour every night and getting her drunk so they could do what they wanted.
Or the one where Doug goes cheap on the eye surgery plan for Carrie and she's blind for a week.
Or Doug claims he's taking Deacon out clubbing to find women when in reality he's just going to party for himself
When Carrie starts talking about work bullshite, his mind drifts to him on the dance floor, not paying attention to a single word she's saying. Also loved the episode where Lou Ferrigno trains Doug and Carrie separately and Doug cuts a deal with him to let him play the Playstation during their sessions so he doesnt have to work out.
This post was edited on 10/30/26 at 11:12 pm
Posted on 10/30/26 at 11:09 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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At a wedding, Doug takes one of the guest disposable cameras into the bathroom to take dick pics, thinking that only the couple will see them. The joke goes off the tracks when the couple decides to open the developed pictures in front of the entire extended family.
Everyone blames Doug's cousin Danny, but when Carrie realizes the truth, she pushes Doug to confess.
But then she realizes that everyone is laughing at the size of "little Doug", and advises Doug to let Danny take the fall.
Doug: Bless me father for I have sinned. It's been *mumbles* since my last confession.
Priest: How long?
Doug: 14 years.
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