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Posted on 4/7/15 at 8:55 pm to chinese58
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He wasn't scamming anyone but the cops in BB. He was avoiding anything that "looked" shady to protect himself and his clients as Saul.
That we saw. Our interaction with Saul in BB was only with Walt and Jesse. But there is so much he has going on at that time that we never were shown.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 9:49 pm to Chef Leppard
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I absolutely agree. Not trying to go mining for genius here, but i feel like gilligan knew the entire viewing public was baited for for an epic snap and he toyed with that
I don't know that BB had anything to do with it. Last week the end of Pimento was the first unveiling of the impetus for Jimmy to break bad, this one was basically the transition piece for it. It's a good segue, with the trip back and Marcos death, I'm a little disappointed Gilligan didn't break out Alice Coopers "No more Mr Nice Guy" for the final song, when it became clear from now on we are going to be seeing slippin Jimmy/Saul from here on.
This post was edited on 4/7/15 at 9:51 pm
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:45 pm to WG_Dawg
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2)It was the finale. The past few weeks we've been building and building with several different storylines so I imagine everyone expected a major hit with the last one of the season. Yet instead we got a whimper instead of a bang. Only a few seconds of Mike. Zero chuck/jimmy storyline. Basically nothing from HHM's end. It was just kinda...there. It was on, we watched it, it ended, that was it. I think we expected more.
The season shouldve ended last week, this episode shoulve been the first episode of season two.
Posted on 4/7/15 at 10:47 pm to DanglingFury
He realized going back to Cicero who he really is
He also realized that he was the mark and Chuck was running the con on him
Jimmy kniws he is going to get paid from the lawsuit and he wants to be in control of his own destiny. He is the con, not the mark
He also realized that he was the mark and Chuck was running the con on him
Jimmy kniws he is going to get paid from the lawsuit and he wants to be in control of his own destiny. He is the con, not the mark
Posted on 4/8/15 at 5:28 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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I'd rather jack off a jaguar with a fist full of cockle burrs!!!
That would end poorly for both you and the jaguar.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 6:45 am to MikeyFL
Nice catch.
"I'll send you to Belize." Walt to Saul.
The last scene between Jimmy and Mike was all I needed to set up next Season.
As 1st Seasons go I thought it was Great.
eta: Are y'all referring Ernesto(Ernie)that brought Chuck his apples,ice,etc..?
"I'll send you to Belize." Walt to Saul.
The last scene between Jimmy and Mike was all I needed to set up next Season.
As 1st Seasons go I thought it was Great.
eta: Are y'all referring Ernesto(Ernie)that brought Chuck his apples,ice,etc..?
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 6:50 am
Posted on 4/8/15 at 9:37 am to SmackoverHawg
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So is Ernesto Gus' son and that's gonna be Saul's in with Gus?
Wouldn't doubt it.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:28 am to SnoopALoop
I didn't think Saul knew Gus.He knew Mike who worked for Gus.
I doubt he wanted to know Gus.
I doubt he wanted to know Gus.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 10:34 am to tidalmouse
Do people think Ernesto is tied to Gus simply because he had a small bit part that would seem to indicate he's important?
That's really the only thing I can think of to connect them. Ernie is an errand boy for a law firm that is currently running grocery errands for a partner...that's pretty much all we know about him. Plus, Gus looks to be more latino with brownish skin while ernesto was pretty black.
That's really the only thing I can think of to connect them. Ernie is an errand boy for a law firm that is currently running grocery errands for a partner...that's pretty much all we know about him. Plus, Gus looks to be more latino with brownish skin while ernesto was pretty black.
Posted on 4/8/15 at 5:57 pm to WG_Dawg
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Do people think Ernesto is tied to Gus simply because he had a small bit part that would seem to indicate he's important?
Gus looks to be more latino with brownish skin while ernesto was pretty black.
Exactly. If he was meant to be Gus's kid, they would have given him some resemblance. Although, the Ernesto/Ernie thing does seem to be an indication.
But also, Gus might be gay.
This post was edited on 4/8/15 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 4/8/15 at 8:14 pm to TouchedTheAxeIn82
I took the Ernesto character to just be another mirror into how Chuck and Jimmy relate to people and how other people see them.
With Chuck, the young man was very formal and stilted. Chuck called him "Ernesto", as if he didn't care to get to know him beyond what was in his personnel file or what Howard told him about him.
With Jimmy, the young man is smiling, open, and friendly. He inquires about Jimmy's life. Jimmy calls him "Ernie", showing that Jimmy actually got to know him and knows he prefers the nickname to his given name.
People like Jimmy and Jimmy likes people. Not so much with Chuck.
With Chuck, the young man was very formal and stilted. Chuck called him "Ernesto", as if he didn't care to get to know him beyond what was in his personnel file or what Howard told him about him.
With Jimmy, the young man is smiling, open, and friendly. He inquires about Jimmy's life. Jimmy calls him "Ernie", showing that Jimmy actually got to know him and knows he prefers the nickname to his given name.
People like Jimmy and Jimmy likes people. Not so much with Chuck.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 7:49 am to lsu480
It's nauseating how everyone here has a hard on for Jimmy "Breaking bad." You people totally missed the point of the entire season, and especially the finale. He has ALWAYS been "Slippin' Jimmy." He spent years trying to "break good." He finally had it practically waiting on a silver platter with the offer from the other firm, but his trip back home reminded him of who he truly is. He reinforced this with his short chat with Mike - he had half of 1.6 million at his fingertips and let it go trying to "do the right thing." Never again. Because he is back to being what he always has been. If you don't think that this finale was perfect - and it's obvious that most of you don't - then this entire season went completely over your heads. 
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 7:52 am
Posted on 4/9/15 at 8:30 am to WG_Dawg
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Plus, Gus looks to be more latino with brownish skin
Posted on 4/9/15 at 8:34 am to tiger2012
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I'm going to keep watching but looking back, I only enjoyed 3 episodes. Most of the times, I got bored.
I think the are making a series out of The Expendables. You should check it out!!$1
Posted on 4/9/15 at 8:38 am to BamaChick
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I took the Ernesto character to just be another mirror into how Chuck and Jimmy relate to people and how other people see them.
With Chuck, the young man was very formal and stilted. Chuck called him "Ernesto", as if he didn't care to get to know him beyond what was in his personnel file or what Howard told him about him.
With Jimmy, the young man is smiling, open, and friendly. He inquires about Jimmy's life. Jimmy calls him "Ernie", showing that Jimmy actually got to know him and knows he prefers the nickname to his given name.
People like Jimmy and Jimmy likes people. Not so much with Chuck.
this is why i said the "old people like you" line by the chick was an underrated point about his transformation
jimmy is a people person who can manipulate people (sometimes for good, sometimes for bad). chuck is not. jimmy had to realize this and learn that what chuck's life is, is not what jimmy's life should be
Posted on 4/9/15 at 8:40 am to Srbtiger06
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See this is where it gets me. All season he was trying to improve. Trying to be a good guy. Chuck was his biggest influence and he wanted nothing more than to make him proud.
Now he's pissed at Chuck but passes up an opportunity to prove him wrong?
I took the ending like this.
Jimmy's whole life he's been told that Chuck was better than he was. Jimmy was a con man, he was worthless, he wasn't as good as his brother. He had come to accept that. I think at the end he realized that Chuck had shown his true colors, Chuck may have the reputation and the clout, and a clean image, but he's dirty, so very dirty. Jimmy on the other hand has the dirty image but he's a good person.
How can a con man be a good person? Who is he conning exactly? Greedy people He's exploiting people's greed. The con in the alley with the watch, the fake coin etc are all plays on people being greedy. Jimmy may be a con man but at least he owns it, not like Chuck.
I think at the end he realized that he wasn't the piece of shite, Chuck was. And he doesn't want to be like Chuck anymore.
Posted on 4/9/15 at 11:30 am to The Dude Abides
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Jimmy's whole life he's been told that Chuck was better than he was. Jimmy was a con man, he was worthless, he wasn't as good as his brother. He had come to accept that.
I think some of you are missing the big picture here.
Think about the last scene with Hamlin, " hey Jimmy, remember what I used to call you?... "charlie hustle"
If Hamlin was willing to accept Jimmy into the firm and Chuck had just gone along with it, Jimmy is well on the way to becoming the corporate lawyer he wanted to be and they are.
Of course there is no "Saul" at that point, but that was a possibility, it's not as if it was written in the stars that Jimmy had to be "slippin Jimmy/Saul".
Posted on 4/9/15 at 1:55 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Right after I got here, I ordered some spaghetti with marinara sauce and I got egg noodles and ketchup. I'm an average nobody. I get to live the rest of my life like a schnook.
A few years ago, I was in North Platte, Nebraska and stopped in at a convenience store. It was about 10pm and I don't remember how or why got into a conversation with the clerk. Anyway, he told me that mid/late 2000's, Henry Hill would occasionally show up drunk at the store and have agents a step behind him. The clerk said he was loud and clearly was attention starved.
Not much of a story, but it made me realize Northwest/Central Nebraska truly is the middle of nowhere.
This post was edited on 4/9/15 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 4/10/15 at 8:21 am to Dignan
quote:It definitely is. I've driven through there a few times, absolute middle of nowhere. Same with Missouri between St Louis - Columbia, Columbia - Kansas City and Kansas on the Turnpike.
Not much of a story, but it made me realize Northwest/Central Nebraska truly is the middle of nowhere.
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