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re: Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice Tomato watch 29%
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:29 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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No. It's because DC and Marvel want to use everything that Frank Miller has done with their characters as the basis for their movies and TV series.
Which is a mistake. Move the frick on, especially in the case in Daredevil, in which Miller's run isn't even one of the three best runs on the book. Though I would argue the show is trying to go more of the Bendis/Brubaker route. And actually, the MCU owes a lot more to Brubaker than Miller. Miller's worldview is so adolescent, and it's been effectively destroyed by Alan Moore's critques.
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Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:31 pm to Mad_Mardigan
I don't like that unsure of yourself bullshite.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:33 pm to Baloo
quote:Oh, I'm not. I don't mind the way he treated Superman at all.
You can't bitch about how Donner treated Superman as a children's cartoon and then in the next breath, use that movie's decisions to justify your own.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:34 pm to athenslife101
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I don't like that unsure of yourself bullshite.
Well, it happens, you've never been unsure of yourself? Or had self doubt if you could do something or be something others want you to do or be? Or if you even wanted to in the first place?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:34 pm to Baloo
Agree. Millar's adolescent, misogynistic material is a relic is a bygone era that I don't miss. There are so many better creators that could be used as a foundation.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:34 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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Marvel want to use everything that Frank Miller has done with their characters as the basis for their movies and TV series.
I don't know about all that.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:35 pm to abellsujr
I see other reviews are praising this movie. I think you have to have low expectations going in.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:38 pm to Broseph Barksdale
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Agree. Millar's adolescent, misogynistic material is a relic is a bygone era that I don't miss. There are so many better creators that could be used as a foundation.
And here we get into a major difference between the MCU and the DCU. The MCU is definitely occupying the space in this post-Miller world. It is far more inclusive, egalitarian, and conscious of the responsibility of being a hero. It is the Bendis-verse, for lack of a better term. The DCU is trapped in this reflection of Miller and seems unable to do anything that is not a Miller story, inspired by Miller, or written by one of his literary descendants. Let's be honest, Snyder is likely a HUGE Frank Miller fan.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:39 pm to beauchristopher
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see other reviews are praising this movie. I think you have to have low expectations going in.
Care to share? The best review I've seen is 3.5 out of 4 and it is all alone.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:43 pm to Baloo
Maybe so, but DC has made Year One and DKR part of their DNA...it makes sense to portray that on screen.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:43 pm to Baloo
That is very well put. I lack the ability to express it as eloquently, but to me Millar's world occupies the same mid/late-90's space as Jerry Springer, the Farrelly Brothers, an MA-rated Monday Night Raw, and the early South Parks, with various levels of things being EXTREME, vulgar, shocking or otherwise "adult".
We've sort of moved past that culturally, you know? Millar (and Snyder by way of leaning on the tone established by Millar) seems stuck there.
We've sort of moved past that culturally, you know? Millar (and Snyder by way of leaning on the tone established by Millar) seems stuck there.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:43 pm to BigAppleTiger
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It's funny how much the audience has liked every film more while the critics have gone the opposite way.
Since no one is trying to win Oscars for these movies, isn't audience reception the more important number?
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:44 pm to beauchristopher
quote:I have not seen one review praising this movie other than the grand visuals, which are highly subjective. Not even huge DC fans.
I see other reviews are praising this movie.
ETA: There are some saying the acting by most of the cast is outstanding. Some are raving about Affleck's Batman, but that's it. And that will be highly subjective as well.
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 2:59 pm to abellsujr
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I have not seen one review praising this movie other than the grand visuals, which are highly subjective. Not even huge DC fans.
ETA: There are some saying the acting by most of the cast is outstanding. Some are raving about Affleck's Batman, but that's it. And that will be highly subjective as well.
I've seen reviews praising everything except the flow of the story. Different reviewers like different things. Multiple praises for Affleck, Gadot, Irons, the fight choreography, music, CGI, pretty much everything. Just too many reviewers who didn't like it.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:02 pm to Fewer Kilometers
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fight choreography
quote:I would put this in the grand visuals category.
CGI
quote:I haven't seen one praising the music, yet. I have seen many who hated it.
music
quote:For his acting job, yes. But, his portray of the character will be highly subjective to the general audience, I promise.
Multiple praises for Affleck
This post was edited on 3/23/16 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:13 pm to abellsujr
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I haven't seen one praising the music, yet
I own the soundtrack. It's a HUGE letdown, dare I say terrible.
I loved the Mos Score and the BvS score sounds like they mailed it in.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:15 pm to theunknownknight
It's tough seeing a Batman related production get railed on so hard by the critics after the decade under Nolan. But I guess the character survived Batman & Robin somehow.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:19 pm to theunknownknight
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I own the soundtrack. It's a HUGE letdown, dare I say terrible. I loved the Mos Score and the BvS score sounds like they mailed it in.
You kidding me? It's Hanz Zimmer, this is the only thing I would have put money down would be great.
Posted on 3/23/16 at 3:20 pm to theunknownknight
I'm embarrassed by the amount of soundtracks on my phone. If historians in 10,000 years find it they're going to think this John Williams guy must've been the most popular music act of the time 
Listened to home alone score this morning. so sad
Listened to home alone score this morning.
so sadPosted on 3/23/16 at 3:22 pm to DelU249
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Listened to home alone score this morning
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