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Posted on 2/16/16 at 9:51 pm to Byron Bojangles III
He looks great in that role for sure. Perfect casting.


Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:07 pm to abellsujr
quote:There's another danger- audience fatigue. 400 million isn't being spent to draw in the geek crowd, they want the general public.
It's just going to piss me off to no end if they frick this thing up. I mean, I may boycott superhero movies all together for awhile if they scrap JL plans.
The problem is, a lot of the audience is already invested in one ongoing storyline with Marvel, they might not translate over to DC very well. First problem- you'll have those that start wondering where Iron Man and the Avengers are, or the X-Men etc... after all, they are super heros too. Oh, wait- yet another alternative superhero populated world? (I think this is what happened to the Spider-man reboot and the Fantastic Four; you're trying to follow too many different threads). And in DC's case, you don't really have real cities, either- who cares about Gotham or Metropolis, when the Avengers are brawling in NYC?
A related, but different risk- super heroes in general might be getting ready to drop back down. Epic blockbusters are great, but the two biggest epics were Jurassic World and Star Wars, and SW is about to blitz us over the next couple years (direct SW sequels, and a couple of spinoffs). The audience at large might see Marvel finish out (since they're invested), but otherwise turn to new themes.
In short, DC might be too late with this.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:13 pm to Scoob
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First problem- you'll have those that start wondering where Iron Man and the Avengers are, or the X-Men etc... after all, they are super heros too.
I'm confident that will happen to an estimated 0 people
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:19 pm to Scoob
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yet another alternative superhero populated world? (I think this is what happened to the Spider-man reboot and the Fantastic Four; you're trying to follow too many different threads).
You think the problem with the fantastic four was on many confused people couldn't figure out why they avengers weren't there?
No. That movie is to the fantastic four source material what the live action DragonBall movie was to dbz.
As for amazing spiderman. I'm a big fan of both movies.
Garfield deserves to be spiderman. I respect him for calling out the studio repeatedly. And up until Paul Giamatti showed up, Amazing Spider-Man 2 was a great movie. Go head and yell at me, but Pete being a smart scientist, villains having actual super powers, Gwen Stacy as a part of his life, etc... I really enjoyed it.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
DCs real problem is that their best characters are villains...so suicide squad will touch on that, but the following dudes are far more interesting than anyone on the JLU roster (except MM)
Joker/Harley
Black Adam
Sinestro
Darkseid
The Legion of Doom
Deathstroke
hell even Catman has a better story than the heroes
Joker/Harley
Black Adam
Sinestro
Darkseid
The Legion of Doom
Deathstroke
hell even Catman has a better story than the heroes
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:22 pm to IceTiger
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DCs real problem is that their best characters are villains..
Seeing as Batman and Nightwing are my 2 all time favorite super hero's, I'll have to strongly disagree with you.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:23 pm to RLDSC FAN
Ohhhhhhhhh I hope this thing tanks. 
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:27 pm to PhilipMarlowe
I hate people like you. Almost as much as I hate the WB executives who pinned their entire slate of DC products on Snyder.
I'm not super excited about the movie but I hope it kills. Marvel is set up.
Give the DC people live action satisfaction.
at least we still have the animated batman movies to look forward to
I'm not super excited about the movie but I hope it kills. Marvel is set up.
Give the DC people live action satisfaction.
at least we still have the animated batman movies to look forward to
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:56 pm to Scoob
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Epic blockbusters are great, but the two biggest epics were Jurassic World and Star Wars, and SW is about to blitz us over the next couple years (direct SW sequels, and a couple of spinoffs). The audience at large might see Marvel finish out (since they're invested), but otherwise turn to new themes.
In short, DC might be too late with this.
I actually agree here as well. Everyone wants a universe now. I don't think Universes will die, but I think you will fracture the fanbases. I mean, if studios have their ways, we'd have the following Universes:
X-Men
DCU
MCU
Spider-Man (Sub-MCU with it's own storylines most likely)
Potter
Jurassic
Star Wars
And that isn't counting long running Series - Pirates of the Carribbean, Fast and Furious, etc.
Granted, not each one will deserve or require the same amount of fandom, but fandom is tiring that's often why people go all in on one thing and why DC/Marvel is a thing.
I really really like DC comics but they are impossible to keep up with while trying to stay up to date in Marvel.
Posted on 2/16/16 at 10:57 pm to IceTiger
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DCs real problem is that their best characters are villains...so suicide squad will touch on that, but the following dudes are far more interesting than anyone on the JLU roster (except MM)
Joker/Harley
Black Adam
Sinestro
Darkseid
The Legion of Doom
Deathstroke
hell even Catman has a better story than the heroes
Hal and Dick or two of the best comic book characters ever created, so no, I disagree.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 1:33 am to PhilipMarlowe
Batman-On-Film put out an article yesterday. The guy who runs the website knows his shite and makes sure everyone knows it. For that, a lot of people hate the dude because he's arrogant about the access he enjoys.
Anyways...Warner Bros. is not worried so much as they are nervous as they have a lot riding on this film. As the OP mentioned, it's got a huge freaking budget. According to the people Jett has talked to inside of Warner Bros., they love the movie. The reason why they are nervous is because the film isn't like the MCU. It's not your typical comic book film. And they are worried about how people will respond to it.
Anyways...Warner Bros. is not worried so much as they are nervous as they have a lot riding on this film. As the OP mentioned, it's got a huge freaking budget. According to the people Jett has talked to inside of Warner Bros., they love the movie. The reason why they are nervous is because the film isn't like the MCU. It's not your typical comic book film. And they are worried about how people will respond to it.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 3:04 am to RollTide1987
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not worried so much as they are nervous
I'll try this distinction someday IRL and see how many puzzled looks I receive.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:15 am to molsusports
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not worried so much as they are nervous
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I'll try this distinction someday IRL and see how many puzzled looks I receive.
If a groom is worried, that might be a concern.
If a groom is nervous, not so much of a concern.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:18 am to RollTide1987
thanks for that update.....even though the OP had a link stating that already.....
quote:
This got lots of people talking, but I didn't want to talk about it until I had some more insight on the situation. For starters, from what I've heard I stand alongside Bill Ramey of Batman-On-Film, in that the term "worried" is a mischaracterization. They're not worried, per sé. What they are is nervous, and that's to be expected. After all, there is a lot riding on BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE. Not only is the fate of an entire slate of DC films hanging in the balance of whether or not this movie hits, but the very definition of "hit" is now coming into question. The budget for the film, with promotion included, has reportedly ballooned to north of $400 million. So for the movie to be considered a monster success- which the studio needs it to be- and for it to open the floodgates for the rest of the proposed slate, it would need to make north of a billion. The problem is, according to a well-connected source who spoke with us on a condition of anonymity, the film could be as polarizing as MAN OF STEEL. To be clear, he loved MOS. And he's seen BATMAN V SUPERMAN, and he really liked it, too. But he also recalls how that first film came out and split audiences and critics alike. It wasn't the kind of universal crowd-pleaser that DC wanted th1en, and that trend may very well continue with BvS. Read more at:
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Posted on 2/17/16 at 9:21 am to BilJ
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my only guess is they wanted to show the audience that can't seem to grasp batman fighting superman where this was leading to.
Bingo. Studios always have to assume their audience is dumb.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:15 am to RLDSC FAN
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reportedly ballooned to north of $400 million
gotta wait till something official is released
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:19 am to Freauxzen
Another problem DC will face is character development, when compared to the Marvel movies in the theater at the same time.
When Captain America faces a moral dilemma in Civil War, we'll have 3 films to base his reaction on, and even more movies when it comes to Iron Man. You won't need a bunch of expose or flashbacks, because we know who these guys are.
In comparison, we have 1 film for Cavill's Superman. You say "Batman", well, that's not Bale's Dark Knight, this is a different Batman, although we expect certain things to stay the same; and everyone else is completely new and undeveloped.
You run the risk that the movie will be either shallow in comparison, or cluttered up and slow.
When Captain America faces a moral dilemma in Civil War, we'll have 3 films to base his reaction on, and even more movies when it comes to Iron Man. You won't need a bunch of expose or flashbacks, because we know who these guys are.
In comparison, we have 1 film for Cavill's Superman. You say "Batman", well, that's not Bale's Dark Knight, this is a different Batman, although we expect certain things to stay the same; and everyone else is completely new and undeveloped.
You run the risk that the movie will be either shallow in comparison, or cluttered up and slow.
Posted on 2/17/16 at 10:32 am to Scoob
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, or cluttered up and slow.
That's definitely my concern with this film. Apparently the run time is 160 minutes, that's a long comic film. It better be engrossing or it runs the risk of people just tuning out.
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