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Batman V Superman Budget is Reportedly Over 400 Million. Plus New Images

Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:28 pm
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This got lots of people talking, but I didn't want to talk about it until I had some more insight on the situation. For starters, from what I've heard I stand alongside Bill Ramey of Batman-On-Film, in that the term "worried" is a mischaracterization. They're not worried, per sé. What they are is nervous, and that's to be expected. After all, there is a lot riding on BATMAN V SUPERMAN: DAWN OF JUSTICE. Not only is the fate of an entire slate of DC films hanging in the balance of whether or not this movie hits, but the very definition of "hit" is now coming into question.

The budget for the film, with promotion included, has reportedly ballooned to north of $400 million. So for the movie to be considered a monster success- which the studio needs it to be- and for it to open the floodgates for the rest of the proposed slate, it would need to make north of a billion. The problem is, according to a well-connected source who spoke with us on a condition of anonymity, the film could be as polarizing as MAN OF STEEL. To be clear, he loved MOS. And he's seen BATMAN V SUPERMAN, and he really liked it, too. But he also recalls how that first film came out and split audiences and critics alike. It wasn't the kind of universal crowd-pleaser that DC wanted then, and that trend may very well continue with BvS.

Again, this isn't to say that the film is bad. Not at all. But it's not for everyone, and that's making the suits nervous1, as there's a lot riding on this film and they'd rather it have turned out more accessible. And the comparison to MOS is a troublesome one, because that film made $668 million worldwide- well short of what they hope BvS will bank for them.

This whole moving of the goal posts, in terms of what it takes for the film to be considered a hit, reminds me of the position Sony was in when THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN 2 was meant to be the launchpad for an entire slate of movies set within the Spidey universe. The film came out, made north of $700 million, split critics and audiences, and we all know how that ended: With Sony scrapping all of their plans and making a deal to reboot Spider-Man with Marvel Studios.

So when you've got a film that has this many expectations tied to it, the word "success" is very different than what conventional knowledge would imply.

In an effort to guarantee a better outcome, DC made some bold decisions for this film. They brought in Ben Affleck, who's career resurgence has been a popular storyline in the industry. They brought in an Academy Award winning writer in Chris Terrio. And they brought in BATMAN!

Remember, the idea to include Batman wasn't pre-planned. In fact, the whole Batman Vs Superman angle wasn't cooked up until well after MAN OF STEEL had come out, and it's been said that they didn't decide to include Batman in the film until three days before they announced it at Comic Con. So bringing in The Dark Knight was an impulsive move, and one that was likely aided by the fact that DC knows that audiences love them some Batman.

Yet here we stand, with a film that DC has pulled out all the stops for, and the response so far is that it could be another MAN OF STEEL- that'll excite many, anger many, and not exactly set the world on fire with positive buzz.

It's sounding like the studio wanted THE FORCE AWAKENS, a safe, crowd-pleasing, fun, nostalgic joy ride that appealed to everyone under the sun. Instead, they may have gotten REVENGE OF THE SITH, a film that has some great moments, some iconic images, and be satisfying mainly for longtime, hardcore fans. Hey, at least it's not PHANTOM MENACE.

The one recurring theme coming out of these test screenings, dating back to December, is that Ben Affleck's Batman is the highlight of the film.

It's an interesting position to be in, as our source says he really enjoyed BATMAN V SUPERMAN, but that he's afraid to get his hopes up, as he loved MAN OF STEEL and recalls how that film was received. It sounds like Snyder has made another difficult film, and DC will have to keep a very close eye on what works- and what doesn't work- when it comes out next month. It could conceivably lead to a retooling of all of their plans post-JUSTICE LEAGUE.



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I loved MOS, but I know how polarising that film has been on this site. I predict this boards going to be a mess once BvS comes out

Tons of new pics released as well:



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Posted by 3nOut
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Jan 2013
32394 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:33 pm to
this is the least excited i've been for a comic book movie ever. and i'm a big fat nerd.

if this movie is even remotely good, i'll post the nude images i have of Amy Adams and Henry Cavill i got from the fappening. if you want Ben Affleck, just go watch gone girl.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:37 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:36 pm to
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this is one of the least excited i've been for a comic book movie ever.
Same here.
Posted by RollTide1987
Baltimore, MD
Member since Nov 2009
71149 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:36 pm to
$400 million budget?! I'd be worried about the film's box office intake even if it was as good as The Godfather. That's a lot of money to recoup.

I really liked Man of Steel but I can understand why others did not. As soon as I read that Zack Snyder was the man they were hoping to shepherd their cinematic universe I became less enthusiastic about the project. However, I still had hope that the film would be good enough to justify making more.

But a $400 million budget?!!! This film could be at 85% on Rotten Tomatoes and it likely won't make back its money.
This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 2:40 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95640 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:43 pm to
That seems crazy - so they need to get about $1 billion (rule of thumb 2 to 2 1/2 budget) to break even?

Man. That seems ambitious for any D.C. project, much less when you've recast Batman with Ben Afflect... $1bn just to break even.

Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61475 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:53 pm to
aaaaaaannnnnnd this is why they should have done individual films w/Batman, Wonder Woman, and others before making a crazy expensive team up.

Now they have the pray this thing does gang busters or else they they risk nuking the entire universe they plan to build off it.

I will be mega pissed if this kills off my damn Shazam movie.
Posted by Ibleedblackandgold
Back in Louisiana where I belong
Member since Jun 2009
2856 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:54 pm to
Man of steel as an action movie was cool, as a Superman movie though.....it was crap. No way this movie is good enough to cross 1 billion.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162915 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 2:59 pm to
trailer #2 was just a big misstep, it undermined the entire main conflict of the film. Yes the audience figured the 2 were going to eventually be united against a great threat, but that doesn't mean they wanted to see how via a trailer. It just reeked of a studio that didn't have a clue as to how to market this movie. I don't want to turn this into a Marvel vs. DC thread, but Marvel is simply doing a better job at marketing its movie with a similar premise.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:03 pm to
Snyder is such a hack
Posted by Bama and Beer
Baldwin Co, AL
Member since Oct 2010
85533 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:03 pm to
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400 million dollar budget
Holy frick

Prayers sent
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:04 pm to
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trailer #2 was just a big misstep
I think that's the one I saw.

Batman vs Superman
then Batman and Superman and Wonder Woman vs monster
then Batman vs Superman again

Wtf? Why release that information in a trailer?
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
162915 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:09 pm to
my only guess is they wanted to show the audience that can't seem to grasp batman fighting superman where this was leading to.
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11782 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:10 pm to
The marketing team for this project blew its entire load in the trailers. Completely spoiled the movie I guess in hopes to create interest...I have no intention of giving this movie any money except when it comes to Redbox. The whole thing just seems egh at best. Ben Affleck while I am no fan of him, he doesn't even seem like the worst thing about this movie and that is saying something coming from me.

The WW chick no offense to her but that doesn't look a thing like Wonderwoman...why is Doomsday being created by Lex? The whole plot seems like something Zack Snyder would do...ambitious, yet carelessly done. Suckerpunch 2 DC Universe.
Posted by Fewer Kilometers
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
38436 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:10 pm to
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aaaaaaannnnnnd this is why they should have done individual films w/Batman, Wonder Woman, and others before making a crazy expensive team up.


Man of Steel cost $375 Million with marketing. Iron Man III was $375 Million with marketing as well. It's not like their individual movies were going to be in the Deadpool budget range.

This post was edited on 2/16/16 at 3:11 pm
Posted by StrongBackWeakMind
Member since May 2014
22650 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:12 pm to
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my only guess is they wanted to show the audience that can't seem to grasp batman fighting superman where this was leading to.

I guess. I thought they did a good job of it when they showed Superman saying "If I wanted to kill you, you'd be dead", or something to that effect.

Now we know exactly how it's going to play out.

enemies
friends
enemies again
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60091 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:15 pm to
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.I have no intention of giving this movie any money


A lot of people say this, then come opening weekend they're there. Now, I'm not doubting that you may not watch it in the theaters, but a lot posters that hate on this film will for sure be there.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:16 pm to
I guess the idea is that they don't even necessarily need to make money off of this one. They just need to to do well enough to justify setting up their whole marvel-like franchise then make money off of the subsequent films. Still that's a frick load of eggs to put in that basket.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95640 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:21 pm to
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I guess the idea is that they don't even necessarily need to make money off of this one.


I get that.

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Still that's a frick load of eggs to put in that basket.


Yeah, the risk of a bomb is huge. If it makes "only" $600 million or so, folks are going to get fired.

I guess their research justifies the budget - I mean, they have it down to an art - on the income side. They don't care if it is any good - just that it makes money.

quote:

They just need to to do well enough to justify setting up their whole marvel-like franchise then make money off of the subsequent films.


D.C. just doesn't have the potential of Marvel properties. I get that they want to act like they do - because attitude counts for a lot.
Posted by RLDSC FAN
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Member since Nov 2008
60091 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:28 pm to
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D.C. just doesn't have the potential of Marvel properties


Why is that?
Posted by partywiththelombardi
Member since May 2012
11782 posts
Posted on 2/16/16 at 3:28 pm to
The only comics I plan on catching this year are Deadpool and Apocalypse.

Honestly not even sure about Civil War. Civil War seems like an epic movie that should span well beyond just Captain America's scope...seems like MCU/Disney are just trying to milk the best comic stories while not properly doing them.

Any Civil War story should be done right.

Instead of Civil War we are getting 5 on 5 half court basketball first to 10 points because the budget doesnt allow for more than 3 major pops in our budget.
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