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re: Batman 1989 is still a masterpiece comic book film.

Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:21 pm to
Posted by SSpaniel
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:21 pm to
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Oh my.


He's right.
Posted by PowerTool
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:21 pm to
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My favorite Batman film and it came out before I was born.



For some reason I always figured you were a little older than that on the MSB.
Posted by mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:33 pm to
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Modern comic book movies tend to take themselves very seriously.

1989 Batman doesn't do that. Nobody is trying to save the entire world from destruction. There are no CGI explosions or 10 minute action set pieces


The over-the-top characters in 1989 Batman were straight from the comic-book and they had that look and feel just like in Dick Tracy too. You knew you were going to fantasy-land in a fantasy city with fantasy characters that look cartoonish.

Nowadays, people act like comic-book movies are real life and fanboys treat them like real life dramas instead of what they are.

I guess people love Batman so much because he's human - the one character you can try and get away from the comic-book.

But when you went to see Superman the Movie, you weren't looking for any dark drama, that wouldn't work, he's Superman, it's a comic-book...you knew you were walking into childhood fantasy.

The only Batman that accurately captures the comic book is 1989 Batman. True then, true now. I don't know what these modern Batman movies are based on...certainly not the comic books I read as a kid.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 2:36 pm
Posted by Brosef Stalin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:40 pm to
Batman is the perfect middle ground between the over the top campiness of the 60s series and the super dark and gritty tone of the Nolan series. This was before even the animated series. You had a darker Batman in the comics at that time with Killing Joke and Dark Knight Returns but movie going audiences didn't want that back then. The movie was pure escapist entertainment. That's almost seen as a negative today.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 2:50 pm to
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The over-the-top characters in 1989 Batman were straight from the comic-book and they had that look and feel just like in Dick Tracy too. You knew you were going to fantasy-land in a fantasy city with fantasy characters that look cartoonish.


Batman 89 is much more comic booky than a lot of films, the problem is that Batman did change significantly after TDKR in the comic books, where Begins, as far away from 89 as it is, does actually resemble the modern Batman as well.

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Nowadays, people act like comic-book movies are real life and fanboys treat them like real life dramas instead of what they are.


Huh? That isn't true at all, and it isn't fanboys making modern comic book films uber popular either, it's the general population.

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But when you went to see Superman the Movie, you weren't looking for any dark drama, that wouldn't work, he's Superman, it's a comic-book...you knew you were walking into childhood fantasy.


Superman 78 is even more successful than 89 at golden age comics, honestly.



Posted by boxcarbarney
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 3:08 pm to
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Batman 1989 is still a masterpiece comic book film.


Plus it gave us the greatest of all time music video (youtube). You couldn't get away from this song that summer. Keep bustin'.
This post was edited on 10/28/19 at 3:33 pm
Posted by RebelRye
Metairie, LA
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:17 pm to
The 89 Batman did also have that awesome Pepsi commercial at the beginning.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:43 pm to
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I just dont see how someone could like that performance over Ledgers.


I love Ledger's performance and think he rightfully deserved the Oscar for it, same as Phoenix (hopefully he gets it). But Nicholson's appeals to my tastes better, in that I want a comic book mobster villain.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
7692 posts
Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:45 pm to
Let's get nuts was a great scene. And one of the better Bruce Wayne gambits in the movies. The Tim Burton movies were the right amount of camp and seriousness to bridge the public between the 60s show and Batman from the late 70s on.

Then WB went and wasted it.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:45 pm to
I like the 89 version better, but all the silly CGI is just over the top and detracts IMO.
Posted by theGarnetWay
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Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 4:53 pm to
"It's Japanese."

"How do you know?"

"Well, because I bought it in Japan."
Posted by Cdawg
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 5:06 pm to
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i thought it was just downright bad in some spots

Like the joker dancing around and destroying works of art?

The movie was cheesy and campy then and still is. And Burton followed it up with even a worse one.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 5:08 pm to
Tim Burton had Kim Basinger as the female lead.

Nolan selected a basset hound.

Burton>>>Nolan in this category, at least
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 6:07 pm to
All time favorite Batman


I was 9 when it came out and my dad and I waited around the theater in line in Lake Charles and on the other side of the theater was the line for “Honey I Shrunk the Kids”
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:21 pm to
I was 10

It was like nothing I had ever seen. It was like hearing Nirvana for the first time. It was a true pop culture phenomenon.
Posted by dallastiger55
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Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:27 pm to
And if you didn’t wear this in middle school you weren’t cool

Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 7:28 pm to
Favorite Batman logo
Posted by SUB
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:09 pm to
Loved it and Batman Returns as a kid. I don’t think either has held up well.
Posted by ZappBrannigan
Member since Jun 2015
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 8:21 pm to


Posted by Jay Are
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 10/28/19 at 10:29 pm to
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The only Batman that accurately captures the comic book is 1989 Batman.


Which era?

Batman comics have changed/evolved/cycled through styles for 80 years. There was no camp in the late-80s Batman comics. This was post-Miller. The Killing Joke, one of the most self-serious superhero comics I can think of, was released in 1988. Nicholson's Joker, and the rest of Burton's Gotham, had very little resemblance to what comic readers were seeing in that era.

When people say a movie is comic book-y or feels like a comic, I don't really get it. Are they saying a mix of quality and camp resemble late-70s/early-80s Silver Age DC comics? Are they thinking about whatever specific series they read when they were 12? The Nolan films are dark and serious. The Scott Snyder run of Batman right after the Nolan films were dark and serious. I don't often hear the Nolan films described as comic-booky, but I've read a bunch of comics that feel pretty similar to them.

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I don't know what these modern Batman movies are based on...certainly not the comic books I read as a kid.


I suspect there was either some self-selection or parental supervision.
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