re: Amazon put out a "superfans" video about LOTR: Rings of Power

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It was a infomercial on how Amazon is striving to cater to the politically correct environment we currently live in.

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Everything you ever loved in entertainment is going to be woke going forward. Just accept it. Its deliberate and it's going to happen. Maybe in 20 years when this shite ends there will be an opportunity to right the wrongs, but it won't happen anytime soon.


Think of any property you loved in movies, tv, games, etc. And I promise you those characters and stories will be butchered for LGBTQ and "I want characters who look like me" B.S..

This is what Marxism does, constantly destroys, never creates, always dividing along race and gender.

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They absolutely are trying to market this show to as many people as possible.

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I have no issue with marketing with the hope of expanding the viewer audience by casting specific demographics with the hope that more people may enjoy the story and become a fan of the lore. So having a black elf or dwarf even without a beard I can live with and as you said is cosmetic and does not change to overall story arc from that standpoint.

The issue though is that video made it go from just being cosmetic to actually addressing current day political ideologies an incorporating them into a fantasy fiction story line that will not add any value to the story. Again a black elf or whatever demographic you pick for a cast member so be it but the talk in that video sounded like changing the narrative of the story foundation with empowering minorities and a story based around how a minority demographic(s) is trying to overcome a oppressed environment.

Smell eachother’s farts some more.

OML can’t tell you what a settingnis but he can tell you the language in which Tolkien fans converse.

Not really defending the video. Jsut not writing the show off because Marketing is tone deaf.

I've read this whole thread.

I've read LotR all the way through 8 times. In middle and high school I read it every summer. I've read The Hobbit probably as many times. I've read parts of the Silmarillion once, and I admit, it was a tough read. I'm no expert on that book for certain.

But Sammy, you are delusional and in denial. Or a big fat troll.

And there are TONS of Tolkien fans and experts that agree that this woke shite sucks.

Here's a great sample.

Take your loss and go away now (in my best Critical Drinker voice)

I’m not reading through this thread, but I’ll share my opinion.

Having watched this video, I am finally confident that this series is going to be a disaster.

Furthermore, if they made this series to appeal to the four “Superfans” having this discussion, it’s going to be unrecognizable. “Why were the rings made?” Are they serious? My irritation has nothing to do with Amazon putting together a diverse cast, and everything to do with Amazon making the cast’s diversity more important than the story being told.

There aren’t Black Elves. That would be like creating Black Caucasians. There aren’t Dwarf Queens. Dwarf women were rarely even seen, and only one was named by Tolkien. These additions aren’t sincere. All they’re doing is pandering to people who are doing nothing but checking boxes while having zero regard for the story being told.

To be pissed about the direction they’re taking here isn’t bigotry—it’s righteous indignation towards the bastardization of a story that means the world to millions around the globe, including myself.

Sure, it may end up being a fun fantasy series, but I can guarantee you it won’t truly represent the Middle Earth that Tolkien built, and it won’t be something that honors his legacy.

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There are ways to include diversity. But this way is about as lazy as it gets and what a lot of corporations do.

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Stop with this "lazy" angle. It's not lazy. It is a cold and calculated effort to destroy any and all cultural and social institutions of Western culture. Calling it lazy gives them the cover of being just bumbling but well-intentioned idiots. They're not. This is exactly what they have set out to do decades ago.

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Stop with this "lazy" angle. It's not lazy. It is a cold and calculated effort to destroy any and all cultural and social institutions of Western culture. Calling it lazy gives them the cover of being just bumbling but well-intentioned idiots. They're not. This is exactly what they have set out to do decades ago.

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It’s also hilarious that they secretly value black contributions so little that the best they can think to do is “here, play this role meant for a white person”.

It’s literally “hey find somewhere to stick this person”

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With this LOTR, if you're going to make fundamental changes, you should just go ahead and make a brand new fantasy show and do whatever you want instead of shitting on quite possibly the biggest and most intelligent fanbase there is.

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fricking this.

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There aren’t Black Elves. That would be like creating Black Caucasians. There aren’t Dwarf Queens. Dwarf women were rarely even seen, and only one was named by Tolkien. These additions aren’t sincere. All they’re doing is pandering to people who are doing nothing but checking boxes while having zero regard for the story being told.

To be pissed about the direction they’re taking here isn’t bigotry—it’s righteous indignation towards the bastardization of a story that means the world to millions around the globe, including myself.

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All of this.

Also, I've never quite seen any poster get absolutely eviscerated on any board since I've been here since 2006 as badly as Sammy has in this thread. The guy must just be a masochist.