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re: Amazon cancelled new "Stargate" series because it gave the fans what they wanted

Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:11 am to
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70720 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:11 am to
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Funny as I am watching Frieren where the demons straight up are evil. Unlike Rings of Power which tries to make Orcs some kind of refugee analogy, demons in this world aren’t salvageable.


In anime, there’s so many stories where the demon lords are just cute girls who want to have fun and just need the protagonist to tell them not to be evil to redeem them via the power of friendship.

Frieren is such a refreshing change of pace with clearly evil protagonists. In their world, demons are monsters who feed on humans, but have evolved to the point that they can speak human languages. They appear similar to humans and speak their languages only to help facilitate killing and eating them. They don’t have human emotions, only the capacity to mimic them on purpose to manipulate people. They don’t understand human emotions at all, nor do they really care to. Humans are just food to them. They just know that saying phrase A makes human do B, and that makes the human easier to kill.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23908 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:19 am to
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That’s exactly what it was, they didn’t do a “modern” story so they axed it

When studios repeatedly purchase IP and refuse to make works that are true to the source material that don’t make money it’s impossible to conclude that their motives are pure.

Their activist boards self evidently care about the interjection of their political agenda over any other factors or they wouldn’t be doing what they’re doing.

They aren’t even woke capitalists, they’re intersectional political activists backed by hedge funds on the warpath to destroy existing American culture.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 8:20 am
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70720 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:31 am to
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They aren’t even woke capitalists, they’re intersectional political activists backed by hedge funds on the warpath to destroy existing American culture.


They’re propagandists first, artists second, entertainers third.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23908 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:35 am to
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artists second

I don’t even think anyone can defend the art.

These propagandists wouldn’t have gotten hired in Nazi Germany because they’re bad at propaganda. They’ve turned off Gen Z and younger millennials by becoming a meme and stereotype.

They’re just hacks who get hired based on their race or gender and willingness to churn out check box movies by activist boards that don’t care what the end product looks like.
This post was edited on 6/3/26 at 9:06 am
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
47944 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:48 am to
Without question - Aura , kill yourself - was a masterpiece line., mic drop.

Posted by DMagic
#ChowderPosse
Member since Aug 2010
50500 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:09 am to
Why have the property if you don't want the existing fanbase? Why is giving people what they want inherently bad to these companies?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
478687 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:11 am to
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We're currently in a phase where you can't find straightup good vs evil, everyone needs to be shades of gray. That too gets dreary after awhile.


There is a time and a place for clear good/evil stories, but they get really old/boring really quickly so it's more of a quick response to more nuanced/complex storytelling and then it loses it's value. It's like a palate cleanse between meals.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37590 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:28 am to
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Amazon is weird...

You see an absolute frick-ton of woke, liberal takes.
And then every once in a while, you get a Reacher, or even a Terminal List.

I'm not sure how Terminal List happened, other than Chris Pratt was a big name and they decided money was better than message. I'm glad they did.

But the Tom Clancy Amazon stuff is awful. Most of it has been from the exact opposite political viewpoint that a Tom Clancy book fan (not the movies) would likely have.



Does Amazon have long lasting and popular series that don't go down the wrong rabbit hole eventually? I can't think of any recent examples.

I have a certain amount of resigned skepticism about the corporate owned stuff. At the start it's often good but eventually you end up with the last season of The Boys. Iconic properties like Star Trek, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, JRR Tolkien become terrible garbage that can't be very entertaining even to the people who don't see the moral issues.

Even newer properties like The Witcher, The Wheel of Time, or Harry Potter have been dragged into this stuff and the changes have not been helpful for the fans that liked the source material.

Neither have any of the nonsensical claims about expanding the modern audience worked out. The best you can do to maximize an audience is to nail the preferences of one part of the population. That might be Barbie or it might be The Infinity War. But it is not Barbie with nudity and violence or The Infinity War with intersectionality centered.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27524 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 9:30 am to
Couldve at least released season 1 and saw how it did before canceling it. Not like amazon is hurting for money
Posted by DesScorp
Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
10438 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 1:57 pm to
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But the Tom Clancy Amazon stuff is awful. Most of it has been from the exact opposite political viewpoint that a Tom Clancy book fan (not the movies) would likely have. The Venezuela season made me disgusted in so many ways.


Im quite certain that Amazon execs are knowingly, willfully, and gleefully pissing on Clancy’s grave. They know what his views were, and now they get to shite all over the man and his legacy. And make money doing it. Im sure Disney execs get the same thrill. They all know how right wing he was. Its like dancing on his corpse for a paycheck.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4469 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:17 pm to
Because they are Marxist ideologues
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12956 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 4:43 pm to
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Because they are Marxist ideologues

Pseudo-Marxist, they want it for you and me. Not themselves.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
3378 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 6:36 pm to
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That sucks i miss stargate


Yeah, but it is better than destroying it.

Just do a rewatch. Getting to see Sha’re naked in the opener will make you feel better.
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
1446 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 6:40 pm to
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Why have the property if you don't want the existing fanbase? Why is giving people what they want inherently bad to these companies?


The whole point is to ruin it.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46484 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 7:26 pm to
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Just do a rewatch. Getting to see Sha’re naked in the opener will make you feel better.


She has a helluva nice body.

My wife gets annoyed whenever we do a series rewatch.
Posted by SpartanSoul
Member since Aug 2016
3378 posts
Posted on 6/3/26 at 8:53 pm to
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She has a helluva nice body.

My wife gets annoyed whenever we do a series rewatch.


Yes she does. I would move to Abydos for her.

I was telling my 10yo nephew about Stargate SG-1 after he watched the movie and let him borrow the Buray and totally forgot about the nudity. He was hooked and fell in love as soon as he saw that episode Best uncle ever. I didn't have the heart to tell him that was it. He did end up enjoying the series though.
Posted by ouflak
Manchester, England
Member since Jul 2021
606 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 2:13 pm to
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Not enough non-binary, transpecies character development?


And it's not like they didn't touch on that a bit with a few species that were introduced into the show and even part of the story line. They didn't have to try and make it 'modern'. It already had some background elements right there built into the canon. Just go with that.

I'm personally glad to hear the news. Let somebody pick it up who wants to make a hit and doesn't care about socio politics.
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23673 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 5:18 pm to
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But it is not Barbie with nudity and violence
I'd watch that
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61499 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:40 pm to
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The writer of beloved features in the series didn't put it a chick in it and make her gay, cancel it




Stargate already had gay characters and female captains so... what is it you're complaining about again?
This post was edited on 6/4/26 at 6:47 pm
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24579 posts
Posted on 6/4/26 at 6:43 pm to
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Stargate already had gay characters and female captains so... what is it you're complaining about again?

It’s a meme from South Park but I wouldn’t expect you to get it. Carry on little wokie
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