Amazon cancelled new "Stargate" series because it gave the fans what they wanted

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Creator Martin Gero developed a new Stargate series over two years, ultimately crafting a show that offered a fresh jumping-on point for new viewers while deeply respecting existing canon.

It was a series that avoided the pitfalls of several modern remakes and reboots by fully embracing the core of its predecessors: action, adventure, exploration, wonder, heart, humor, and found family. And based on that creative vision, the new Stargate series was greenlit in November of 2025. As of today, officially, that original vision is no more. We'll never get the opportunity to introduce you to that world and those characters - or reintroduce you to, and check in with, some familiar faces from the past.

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That’s exactly what it was, they didn’t do a “modern” story so they axed it

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while deeply respecting existing canon.

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You really have to ask yourself -

why would they want to suppress fan service & deny the very thing that made the show popular in the first place?


Someone’s going to have to explain why we are seeing this across an entire industry. This isn’t a profitable, popular trend, this is being mandated from outside for reasons I can’t fathom.

Change my mind.

Apparently something similar is happening with the Mass Effect show too.

They supposedly have to rewrite it because it’s “not broad enough” or some shite.

That sucks i miss stargate

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while deeply respecting existing canon.

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You really have to ask yourself -

why would they want to suppress fan service & deny the very thing that made the show popular in the first place?


Someone’s going to have to explain why we are seeing this across an entire industry. This isn’t a profitable, popular trend, this is being mandated from outside for reasons I can’t fathom.

Change my mind.

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A couple years ago, we argued about this. At the time I said you were chasing windmills.

At this point, I have to apologize to you. You're right, there clearly is an agenda, someone is using "mainstream entertainment" as a means to push a social agenda. They're blowing money, yes. But apparently to whoever is doing it, the costs in dollars is worth it, and I'd say they probably are accomplishing what they want in a slow and insidious fashion. If you want to watch something new, that you haven't seen before, you're eventually going to watch something and this agenda will be present.

What's also apparent is that it's directed at a certain population group- people who like action. So that would be guys. Just like with pro sports, there's a lot of messaging in the action, scifi and fantasy genres.

As for this "respecting canon"-
the Stargate SG1 teams were military, based in NORAD although it may have expanded later to more NATO. Yeah, there were scientist "experts" involved, but these were military teams and operations. That was part of the draw- you had fairly realistic military squads operating in a universe where the writers established a believable alien presence. Not just random baddies, you had several races that had inspired early humans to see them as "gods", and there were scientific explanations addessing the travel issues. And not just gods, but also little grays too.
That's not a universe we need to insert wokism into.

One of the best concepts was the "Wormhole XTreme" episode, where the SG1 team investigates... a TV show about military squads operating through a wormhole gateway . The show is more campy than the in-universe "reality", but is uncannily close to what's actually going on.
It's one of those "makes you wonder" things.

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If Apple picks up the series, you know it's likely to be good.

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Amazon owns the rights to the franchise so I doubt that happens.

We argued because you went overboard

I still remember you diving into a thread about Warrior, screaming anti-woke stuff.
It wasn't an issue in that show; and in fact you not only didn't watch it, you were going on about the wrong show (I think you were talking about some vampire shite). Warrior was a Kung Fu set in Chinatown, based on what Bruce Lee wrote.

There are multiple things wrong with movies and tv today, and not all are the same issue.
The "subverting expectations" thing was the film makers wanting to be smarter than the audience, at times changing things just because people online were correctly predicting what was going on.

There's always been a somewhat legit "I have to do my own take" tendency on films, in part to justify why something is remade.

I'm old enough to remember the bleak, miserable and dystopian early 70's. Everything was depressing because everything went wrong. We got sick of that, part of the reason Star Wars did so well... it wasn't dystopian.
We're currently in a phase where you can't find straightup good vs evil, everyone needs to be shades of gray. That too gets dreary after awhile.

I think part of the problem with the wokeness, is that the type of people getting into making stuff tend to be extremely liberal and artsy. That's the lens they view everything through. It's rare to see a grounded, "normal" person in that business.

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Someone’s going to have to explain why we are seeing this across an entire industry. This isn’t a profitable, popular trend, this is being mandated from outside for reasons I can’t fathom.

Change my mind.

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These things are being done on purpose, for sure; I think the people working on the movies think they are doing a good job.

My current view is that it is in service to dark spiritual forces that don't care about the money.

I don’t even remember talking about Warrior, and if I had confused it with something else than that probably only makes my point more valid. I just had the wrong thing,

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We're currently in a phase where you can't find straightup good vs evil, everyone needs to be shades of gray. That too gets dreary after awhile.

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Funny as I am watching Frieren where the demons straight up are evil. Unlike Rings of Power which tries to make Orcs some kind of refugee analogy, demons in this world aren’t salvageable.