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Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:12 pm to
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/10/20 at 11:12 pm to
Saw it tonight. It was absolutely fantastic. I went in thinking Joker or Once Upon a Time In Hollywood should win best picture. After seeing this, I would put 1917 right up there and I expect it to clean up at the Oscars. It should have a great shot for Score, Cinematography, Editing, Original Screenplay, Director and Best Picture. This would be a top 5 all time war film for me, just amazing.
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6430 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:22 am to
The movie suffers from not caring one bit about any of the characters. I dont have one clue as to what the kids name was that was stabbed, so I didnt care when the King of the North started crying about losing his brother.

It was an amazingly crafted movie. Technically perfect, but its going to go down with Gravity and Dunkirk. Technical marvels with story issues.
Posted by GeauxBayouBengals
Member since Nov 2003
6252 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:18 am to
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Technically perfect, but its going to go down with Gravity and Dunkirk. Technical marvels with story issues.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:35 am to
What was the story issues? It was a simple story. Go from point A to point B.
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:48 am to
The story didn’t have any issues. What you’re describing are character issues.

It also sounds like you weren’t paying attention because I knew his name was Thomas Blake and the other as William Schofield but they called each other by their last names. I think it can be a legitimate gripe but I felt for Blake and Scho when Blake got stabbed and even more so when his brother cried for him.
Posted by stateofplay
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 12:18 pm to
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The movie suffers from not caring one bit about any of the characters.


Yea, I somewhat agree. I mean i cared but not really like I did in Saving Private Ryan or something. I guess its cause of the 'one long shot' aspect it seems like the characters just are there.

Hard to put my finger on it.


Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
20488 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:03 pm to
I think it works great for this movie. The war was a meat grinder. The men were just trying to do their job. Character development would have been completely out of place. We got just the right amount of it.
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:05 pm to
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Technically perfect, but its going to go down with Gravity and Dunkirk. Technical marvels with story issues.


I’m a Nolan fanboy, but I enjoyed this movie more than Dunkirk. And while it wasn’t a story filled with character development, it definitely had more than Dunkirk as well
Posted by jg8623
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:07 pm to
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I think it works great for this movie. The war was a meat grinder. The men were just trying to do their job. Character development would have been completely out of place. We got just the right amount of it


Yea, people pointing out the lack of character development may not be wrong, but for me war movies with 18-20 year old soldiers is one of the rare genres where I don’t need a ton of development for me to care about them
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 1:54 pm
Posted by WicKed WayZ
Louisiana Forever
Member since Sep 2011
34164 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 1:53 pm to
I agree. For some reason I naturally care about them already
Posted by Athos
Member since Sep 2016
11878 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:09 pm to
My most intense theater going experience in a long while. My sphincter was tight the moment they entered the trenches. Jesus. Definitely hell on earth.

The German soldiers running at him. The cave in. The stabbing. The French girl with the child that wasn’t even hers.

The single shot, quasi first person cinematography was exquisite. Deserves Oscars.
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27263 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 5:42 pm to
Amazingly shot in a perspective that makes you feel as though you’re the third member of the party.

That scene with the plane crashing is absolutely genius in the way they set it up.
Posted by marcus3000
Member since Jan 2018
972 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:03 pm to
I agree. Saw it this afternoon and it was amazing. I'm not sure how I felt driving home. Gutted in a way, after Cumberbatch's speech that the next day they might go over the top at dawn. It was a very intense, well scored, well shot, and dramatic movie.

Agree with the posters regarding Dan Carlin. I can't listen to all that again though. It's just too exhausting listening to the constant mistakes and meat grinders that the war became. Von Falkenhayn saying they'd bleed the French dry over Verdun makes me sick.

[e]: I thought during the movie that here's this courageous, deep feeling man who's just cannon fodder and how many good guys like that were wasted to massed machine gun fire and artillery. That hit home in the medical tent scene at the end.
This post was edited on 1/11/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted by arktiger28
Member since Aug 2005
5401 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 6:37 pm to
Man, that my was incredible. I get people’s complaint about Dunkirk and caring about the characters but I didn’t fill that way about these guys. For some reason I cared deeply about them almost off the bat. I felt like I was with them.
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:22 pm to
I saw it today. Yes the film does lack character development, that's where I think Private Ryan excelled, but holy shite folks, half my theater was in tears by the end.

And if you didn't want to jump out of your seat and start shouting for the soldier after he began sprinting across the first wave to get to the Col. McKenzie, you're dead inside.

I haven't been that engaged in a scene since the docking scene of Interstellar.

My blood pressure ewa through the roof.

This is a must watch in a theater.
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
38340 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 7:39 pm to
Was I the only person who saw to let a MASSIVE. Exhale there at the end ?
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
27322 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:10 pm to
When i was leaving, a guy near me said "I'm exhausted". Totally summed it up
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:43 pm to
Excellent movie, just outstanding. I love how Mendes didn’t feel the need to appeal to patriotism or some glorified version of war. It was just the story on a personal level of the soldiers and the fact that they fought for one another.
Posted by Buck Futter
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2019
538 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 8:59 pm to
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I felt for Blake and Scho when Blake got stabbed and even more so when his brother cried for him.


This. I have two younger brothers and those two scenes really hit me in the feels even with pretty limited character development. Couldn’t imagine getting that news. When he asked to write their mom, it got dusty.

The movie was amazing. I had high hopes and left the theater with expectations exceeded.
Posted by BRich
Old Metairie
Member since Aug 2017
2986 posts
Posted on 1/11/20 at 11:33 pm to
So, turns out that Tommen Lannister's older brother was Robb Stark... interesting thing there.

The film, though-- a 10. Great moviemaking all the way through.
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