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re: 1917 thread- SPOILERS SPOILERS
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:29 pm to WWII Collector
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:29 pm to WWII Collector
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oscar talk is coming from... The storyline was just flat
Not gonna argue about you not liking the storyline, it is very simple, but if you cant understand why it got all those other Oscar nominations then idk what to tell you
Posted on 1/16/20 at 11:56 pm to jg8623
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but if you cant understand why it got all those other Oscar nominations then idk what to tell you
Please.. Tell me.. Because I really don't understand why it got any oscar nominations... I really don't and I am being serious.
There really was nothing to the storyline at all... Send two guys on a mission to deliver a message and they run into trouble, the enemy and then deliver message and attack called off.
There was really nothing unpredictable, exciting or anything... No great dialog... Nothing...
Sorry, It didn't suck.. But it sure wasn't great by any means.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 1:34 am to WWII Collector
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Because I really don't understand why it got any oscar nominations... I really don't and I am being serious.
You don’t understand why this got nominated for best cinematography? Best director? Best Original score? Etc...
You keep jumping back to the story, which I acknowledged is simple and wouldn’t argue with anyone who wanted to criticize it. Although I disagree that nothing exciting ever happened. But damn near every other aspect of the movie was outstanding
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 1:36 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:59 am to jg8623
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You don’t understand why this got nominated for best cinematography? Best director? Best Original score? Etc...
No, I truly don't.. I just didn't see it.
Because basically I thought the movie was lame... But I chose to use the term FLAT.. Because that's what it is. Flat. It just sort of lays there and goes nowhere.
During the middle of the movie I was actually contemplating walking out...
Posted on 1/17/20 at 10:03 am to WWII Collector
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Please.. Tell me.. Because I really don't understand why it got any oscar nominations... I really don't and I am being serious.
If you can't see how it got nominated for Best Director, Original Score, Cinematography, Production Design, Sound Mixing, and Sound Editing then I don't think there's a reason to debate you on an intelligent level.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 11:36 am to RollTide1987
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If you can't see how it got nominated for Best Director, Original Score, Cinematography, Production Design, Sound Mixing, and Sound Editing then I don't think there's a reason to debate you on an intelligent level.
Wow. Resorting to slinging insults about a movie?
Production design I can see. Sound mixing.. Maybe.
Best Director, Score and Cinematography.. Nope. Far from it.
Parts of this movie reminded me of The walking dead... To much good stuff happens when they walk into a dark room and you can;t see shite... This movie did the same thing... Three or four times major action scenes happened when they into dark places.
and Predictable... All the way through. Nothing was a real surprise.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 11:38 am
Posted on 1/17/20 at 12:30 pm to WWII Collector
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Production design I can see.
Then I've already won.
Thank you for playing.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:21 pm to WWII Collector
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Best Director, Score and Cinematography.. Nope. Far from it.
You’re the only person that thinks this.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:49 pm to WWII Collector
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Best Director, Score and Cinematography.. Nope. Far from it.
Don’t mean to sound like a dick, but that’s pretty absurd that you don’t see how it’s nominated and gonna win for best cinematography. Did you even happen to notice how it was filmed to look like one long continuous shot? Sometimes there’s room for debate and argument, but sometimes people miss it and are just flat out wrong
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 1/17/20 at 3:56 pm to jg8623
It’s a masterpiece of cinematography. Not only the long shots but the light to dark transitions, the camera work will be used in film study classes for decades to come.
You want to argue the story, fine. You wanna bitch about it not feeling like a “war movie” with huge battles and death everywhere. Fine. But the Camera work is beyond phenomenal
You want to argue the story, fine. You wanna bitch about it not feeling like a “war movie” with huge battles and death everywhere. Fine. But the Camera work is beyond phenomenal
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:24 pm to jg8623
Great movie, I rather enjoyed it for being simple. Not every movie has to be overly complex (...... SW IX)
Posted on 1/17/20 at 6:56 pm to Lawyered
So main character is director grandfather
Posted on 1/17/20 at 7:27 pm to RockChalkTiger
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1) The entire premise is so flawed. Really, two messengers is the only way you can get there? When there are aircraft operating all over the front? Why not just have one of them drop a message?
I only saw the trailer and was the reason I planned on skipping it, but maybe I will check it out. Are they communicating across a trench line? A unit that has gone too far forward? Units concentrate on maintaining lines of communication. World War I was an artillery war and there would have been multiple efforts to maintain communication with the artillery. Even messengers by horse was still extremely common.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 7:31 pm to OleWar
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Are they communicating across a trench line? A unit that has gone too far forward?
Two battalions of British infantry have found the German lines abandoned and chase after them thinking they have them on the run. In actuality, the Germans have pulled back to the infamous Hindenburg Line. HQ can't communicate this to them, however, because the communication lines are cut.
This post was edited on 1/17/20 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:26 pm to jg8623
Well, here are two articles both saying the film is overrated.
1917-movie-review-one-too-long-boring-take-in-an-overrated-film/
1917-is-a-mind-boggling-technological-achievement-but-not-a-great-film
and this quote here on the one take theory.
Keeping a take going for an entire movie, though, is a mistake. It redirects the attention from the story to the technique. To be slightly rude about it, it makes Sam Mendes, not his characters, the star of the movie.
Like I said, I thought the story line was flat... ANd if this one take idea and camera tricks was what made everything blurring behind the characters as they moved... I did not dig it at all... And the light to dark scenes.. Sucked just as bad as on The Walking dead.
1917-movie-review-one-too-long-boring-take-in-an-overrated-film/
1917-is-a-mind-boggling-technological-achievement-but-not-a-great-film
and this quote here on the one take theory.
Keeping a take going for an entire movie, though, is a mistake. It redirects the attention from the story to the technique. To be slightly rude about it, it makes Sam Mendes, not his characters, the star of the movie.
Like I said, I thought the story line was flat... ANd if this one take idea and camera tricks was what made everything blurring behind the characters as they moved... I did not dig it at all... And the light to dark scenes.. Sucked just as bad as on The Walking dead.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:38 pm to WWII Collector
Fantastic. You didn't like the movie. That's fine. No one has to agree with you and we don't have to agree with you either. That's the beauty of film. It's subjective.
My only beef was with you saying it didn't deserve any Academy Award nominations. Clearly I turned you around on that specific point when you admitted it deserved Production Design.
My only beef was with you saying it didn't deserve any Academy Award nominations. Clearly I turned you around on that specific point when you admitted it deserved Production Design.
Posted on 1/17/20 at 9:49 pm to RollTide1987
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Fantastic. You didn't like the movie. That's fine. No one has to agree with you and we don't have to agree with you either.
Never said that I didn't like it... Just started off by saying it wasn't all the hype that I heard it to be.. The years best film... by no means.
Yes// If by production design you are talking about uniforms, trenches, vehicles.. The set was fantastic I thought... I also thought, now that it was mentioned and I think about it.. Sounds was awesome. Especially when the planes were overhead.
But I have to say the film was way too predictable... Just like the Rat and the trip wire.. Seen it coming a mile away. I had no worry in my mind that Schofield was gonna make it in time, deliver the message, the attack is called off and LT. Blake is alive and well.
Truck gets stuck, Scholfield helps push it out.. Bridge is out. Scholfield crosses river alone... Nothing surprising, unpredictable or amazing... Only the death of Corporal Blake was a surprise.
Posted on 1/18/20 at 12:56 am to WWII Collector
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But I have to say the film was way too predictable... Just like the Rat and the trip wire.. Seen it coming a mile away. I had no worry in my mind that Schofield was gonna make it in time, deliver the message, the attack is called off and LT. Blake is alive and well.
Truck gets stuck, Scholfield helps push it out.. Bridge is out. Scholfield crosses river alone... Nothing surprising, unpredictable or amazing... Only the death of Corporal Blake was a surprise.
You keep going back to the writing, which no one has argued against. It sounds like you’re letting the script cloud your judgement of the other aspects of the movie (which is what people on here are actually arguing about)
And just because there’s a few articles saying a movie isn’t that good is a poor way to try and prove a point. We can find those articles for just about every movie ever made. Not to mention one of those articles says it’s a mind boggling technical achievement, which goes against your opinion that it didn’t deserve cinematography or directing nominations
This post was edited on 1/18/20 at 1:07 am
Posted on 1/18/20 at 2:28 am to WWII Collector
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Never said that I didn't like it
Uh...
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Because basically I thought the movie was lame... But I chose to use the term FLAT.. Because that's what it is. Flat. It just sort of lays there and goes nowhere. During the middle of the movie I was actually contemplating walking out...
Posted on 1/18/20 at 7:51 am to GeauxBayouBengals
OK, OK.. I give, I give...
But I will end with this... I won't be going back to see it because of it's oscar winning cinematography or Sound mixing.
But I will end with this... I won't be going back to see it because of it's oscar winning cinematography or Sound mixing.
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