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Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:21 am to Ryan3232
Injuries aside, I'm taking Embiid because I believe he has the higher ceiling. That isn't a knock on KAT either, because he has extremely high potential himself.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:26 am to Ryan3232
Injuries aside? Embiid and it's not even close.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:32 am to Ryan3232
Embiid easy
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:38 am to Keys Open Doors
Giannis can play the 4 but he’s more of a 3. I don’t consider him a big.
Based on his position he’d be the most valuable of the group. Wings just have more value than bigs.
Ranking them currently based on talent:
Davis
Giannis
Healthy Embiid
KAT
Porzingis
KAT is a garbage defender. I could see another of the other 4 being the best player in the nba 3-4 year from now.
Based on his position he’d be the most valuable of the group. Wings just have more value than bigs.
Ranking them currently based on talent:
Davis
Giannis
Healthy Embiid
KAT
Porzingis
KAT is a garbage defender. I could see another of the other 4 being the best player in the nba 3-4 year from now.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:21 am to htran90
Why do Pels fans always insert AD into these topics?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:38 am to Ryan3232
KAT has not lived up to the defensive potential that we think he has. He has been terrible defensively. Also, the +/- for the 6ers when Joel is on the court, versus when he is off is ridiculous. His presence requires so much gravity that he affects the game in a way Towns doesn't.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:44 am to Ryan3232
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:46 am to theducks
Bc the Gms said they would take towns to start a team with over Davis the last two years. And embiid> towns. And they don’t want Davis to be left out.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:49 am to Keys Open Doors
Knowing that elite wings win titles
Giannis > AD
He’s almost 2 years younger too
Giannis > AD
He’s almost 2 years younger too
Posted on 12/13/17 at 7:51 am to Ryan3232
KAT is a great player, but his DPRM is embarrassing. He's one of the worst defenders among centers. Injuries aside, I take Joel Embiid and I don't think it's, particularly, close.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:00 am to Ryan3232
quote:
Injuries aside, who would you rather as your statting center today?
It's Embiid and it's not close. One actually plays defense.
Now, if you are considering injuries, it's a hard question to answer.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:21 am to Epic Cajun
Some stats (per 36 minutes)
Karl-Anthony Towns (22 years old)
20.4 points, 12.0 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.3 blocks, 52.5% shooting,
Joel Embiid (23 years old)
27.8 points, 13.1 rebounds, 4.0 assists, 2.2 blocks, 48.7% shooting
Mystery Player (23 years old)
19.6 points, 15.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 2.6 blocks, 67.7% shooting
Embiid must become more efficient. Shooting 48.7% is terrible for a big. I added the mystery player because I think it's someone who never gets mentioned with these two, but he seems to be in the same stratosphere.
Karl-Anthony Towns (22 years old)
20.4 points, 12.0 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 1.3 blocks, 52.5% shooting,
Joel Embiid (23 years old)
27.8 points, 13.1 rebounds, 4.0 assists, 2.2 blocks, 48.7% shooting
Mystery Player (23 years old)
19.6 points, 15.8 rebounds, 1.7 assists, 2.6 blocks, 67.7% shooting
Embiid must become more efficient. Shooting 48.7% is terrible for a big. I added the mystery player because I think it's someone who never gets mentioned with these two, but he seems to be in the same stratosphere.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:25 am to SwaggerCopter
Swag you can’t be serious. 
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:26 am to SwaggerCopter
It's mind boggling to me how bad KAT is at defense. He has become an absolute liability on that end of the floor. I mean look at this play: Twitter... Example 2
It's like he must hate Thibs or something because you've got to be tanking in order to be that bad.
In related news, I wonder if we look back on this thread in a couple of years and learn that KAT is actually the injury prone one once Thibs runs him into the ground.
It's like he must hate Thibs or something because you've got to be tanking in order to be that bad.
In related news, I wonder if we look back on this thread in a couple of years and learn that KAT is actually the injury prone one once Thibs runs him into the ground.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 9:36 am
Posted on 12/13/17 at 9:51 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:Then who is holding his massive arse to 47% career shooting?
Embiid is unguardable
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:20 am to SwaggerCopter
So, Clint Capela "seems to be in the same stratosphere" as Karl-Anthony Towns and Joel Embiid?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:31 am to hoopsgalore
Clint is a product of James and Chris, 2 of the best 3 playmakers in the league. He has improved offensively a lot. But still doesn’t take any shots more than 4 foot from the rim. Not in the stratosphere of the other two.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:34 am to SwaggerCopter
quote:Stop
Embiid must become more efficient. Shooting 48.7% is terrible for a big. I added the mystery player because I think it's someone who never gets mentioned with these two, but he seems to be in the same stratosphere.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 10:34 am to ReauxlTide222
quote:
Then who is holding his massive arse to 47% career shooting?
I wonder how much of this has to do with shot selection. He's averaging 0.5 3PA per game less than last season, but he's shooting 27% this year compared to last year's 37%. The thing with Embiid is post-ups are a big part of his game, but those shots are some of the least efficient in basketball. That hurts KAT too because Thibs loves post-ups. KAT is probably the better rounded offensive scorer without looking at the numbers, but where KAT is a liability on defense, Embiid is one of best at his position defensively.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 10:35 am
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