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re: Would you rather Joel Embiid or Karl A. Towns?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:41 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:41 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
But James is better today.
arguable, the only thing harden has on james is WS. James has TS%. The rest are pretty much even.
PER:
31.6
31.7
TS%:
63.4
66.4
WS/48:
0.337
0.288
BPM:
11.7
11.5
VORP:
3.1
3.5
3
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:44 pm to Boomshockalocka
That's about as casual as it gets 
Harden is in a cute system, though.
Harden is in a cute system, though.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:45 pm to htran90
Lebron's shooting percentage is enough to end this argument by itself
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:51 pm to ReauxlTide222
James is the architect of the best offense in the history of the league.
And the best isolation defender in the league too at last glance.
And the best isolation defender in the league too at last glance.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:52 pm to htran90
quote:
arguable, the only thing harden has on james is WS. James has TS%. The rest are pretty much even.
Talent on each other's teams sure as shite isn't even. Bron is doing more with less.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:55 pm to htran90
the Glaring difference between them is in the single best one number metric that we have access to. Ws/48. Where harden is damn near 20% better.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:58 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:He isn't the architect of anything
James is the architect of the best offense in the history of the league.
That'd be the coach, who has made a living creating great offenses.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 12:59 pm to ReauxlTide222
James makes top 50 all time and two time nba mvp Steve Nash look like an udder bum comparatively in that offense. Oh and how did that offense work without a nash or harden architecting it.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
jamal crawford tore it up in that offense once upon a time
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:00 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
the Glaring difference between them is in the single best one number metric that we have access to. Ws/48. Where harden is damn near 20% better.
James Hardens best teammate: CP3
Lebrons: uhhh...Love? Dwade?
That's the metric I use. LeBron is winning with scrubs compared to James Harden.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
No one in the game ever has played offense at the level harden is now.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:07 pm to Boomshockalocka
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:08 pm to whatiknowsofar
Ws/48 isolates each individual players contribution.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:08 pm to ReauxlTide222
Mike was COY last year. And he earned it. But he will tell you himself that All of the credit goes to James.
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:12 pm to whatiknowsofar
Yea we seeing the people who used that same argument last year with Westbrook are getting lotsa laughs in their direction this year. 
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:16 pm to Boomshockalocka
Now you're comparing westbrook to LeBron like they're the same type of player hahaha doesn't get more casual than that
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:19 pm to ReauxlTide222
D'antoni ball reminds me of Mike Leach's airraid offenses. Fun to watch, but gimmicky
Of course, I'm a spurs fan and he is 0-5 against the bearded one in the playoffs. So I'm sure that is influencing me more than anything...
Of course, I'm a spurs fan and he is 0-5 against the bearded one in the playoffs. So I'm sure that is influencing me more than anything...
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:19 pm to Boomshockalocka
quote:
the Glaring difference between them is in the single best one number metric that we have access to. Ws/48
Oh it's WS/48, I thought you were always about the big picture and taking into account all advanced statistics.
What about 2014-2015 again...?
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:22 pm to whatiknowsofar
*They’re
poor teammates is weak as all get out when we got metrics that isolate the player contribution.
AND. Hardens squad is worlds better than Westbrook and Lebrons are/have been.
They are much better than any talent discrepancy would lead you to believe.
poor teammates is weak as all get out when we got metrics that isolate the player contribution.
AND. Hardens squad is worlds better than Westbrook and Lebrons are/have been.
They are much better than any talent discrepancy would lead you to believe.
This post was edited on 12/13/17 at 1:24 pm
Posted on 12/13/17 at 1:29 pm to htran90
If you gotta pick only one single number metric, it’s ws/48. I always look at the big picture but for brevity sake sometimes reference the single number metrics if they are representative of what I see when looking at all things. Ive said this before but will say it again. I’m not a big metrics guy but use them to help guys like you see what I see with my eyes. You will probably never have the eye test that I have, the metrics I use allow you to see what I’m seeing. They are the support I use. Not what my evals are based on.
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