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re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:34 pm to Hogssmellgood
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:34 pm to Hogssmellgood
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The fact that he has gotten a team of 80+ new guys to play this well together is impressive.
Let’s see then play a team with a pulse before we conclude this. TCU, Nebraska, and CSU are all bad football teams.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:43 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
College head coaches have been shite talking snake oil salesmen for quite some time. Deion is just getting a ton of media attention for doing it at the level he is. The proof’s in the pudding, and the pudding is far from cooked.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:45 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Some may try, but Colorado this year is a very unique situation with a personality at head coach like no other.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 12:47 pm to The Easter Bunny
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Wasn’t Larry Coker doing this 20 years before Coach O?
Coker is a bit different. Davis revived the program then handed Coker a sure thing when he left for Cleveland.
That 01 Miami team likely could've won the national title with no head coach, no OC and no DC; just Dorsey drawing up offensive plays in the dirt.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:01 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Well, 6 of the next 9 Colorado opponents are ranked. If they keep it up, who knows.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:12 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
I think they have to beat a couple of good teams first
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:19 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Let’s not pretend that Deion didn’t put in the work. He’s not just some ex-player who didn’t spend years working his way up. It’s probably a pretty short line of former stars with respectable coaching resumes. Of course his name afforded him advancement opportunities other guys don’t get, but it’s not like someone just handed Deion the Colorado job. He had built a fairly respectable resume.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:19 pm to jlovel7
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Well let’s let them beat some good teams before we anoint this model a success
TCU played for the national title last year.
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Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:20 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Deion is similar to the football version of Trump. Both spent decades building a brand on their personas before taking on a “new” challenge and continuing to see success. You can’t really replicate that, especially from Deion’s side. How many players are the best at what they do, and also do things that others haven’t come close to doing?
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:21 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
A charismatic recruiter + good coordinators has always been the recipe for success. Sanders is just tweaking it a bit for good measure
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:23 pm to Mizzoufan26
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TCU played for the national title last year.
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Last year. Not the same team.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:23 pm to Jcorye1
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I'd be very interested to see if Mike Vrabel could work at Ohio State. Dude is a leader of men, has great defensive coaching skills, but I seriously doubt he could coddle enough to be a good recruiter.
I think Vrabel would absolutely kill it at Ohio State. That's one of the scariest potential coach/program matches out there, IMO.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:39 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
I mean, Deion has been coaching kids for a long time and can actually coach some. You can’t just sustain a program with a questionable coach. Look at LSU with O.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 1:47 pm to BlueWaffleHouse
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Deion is similar to the football version of Trump. Both spent decades building a brand on their personas before taking on a “new” challenge and continuing to see success. You can’t really replicate that, especially from Deion’s side. How many players are the best at what they do, and also do things that others haven’t come close to doing?
Your comparison is no where close.
Deion Sanders has substance to back up the hype. His arse cashed the checks on the field that his mouth wrote off of it. As a player, he lived up to the hype with a Hall of Fame football career. He had at the least a notable career as a Major League Baseball player which is extraordinary in terms of being a two sport athlete.
Trump, is an excellent “showman” with a sketchy track record of actual success within the fields of business and real estate. He has profited off the hype surrounding his name.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:03 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
A lot of people are going to take the wrong lessons from Deion and be worse off for it. Hopefully our rivals.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:04 pm to Mizzoufan26
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TCU played for the national title last year.
Did they really though?
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:19 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Shedeur sanders is not getting enough credit for this turnaround. He’s been playing lights out and nobody saw that coming. He was pretty good at jsu but has made a big improvement this year. He has more to do with this turnaround than Deion imo.
The takeaway here is that qbs don’t get better sitting the bench and waiting their turn to start. Go start for a small school for 2 years, get the game experience and then move up. That is the formula for college football players today. Especially qbs.
Deion might be able to capitalize on recruiting after this year but the qb play will be hard to replace.
The takeaway here is that qbs don’t get better sitting the bench and waiting their turn to start. Go start for a small school for 2 years, get the game experience and then move up. That is the formula for college football players today. Especially qbs.
Deion might be able to capitalize on recruiting after this year but the qb play will be hard to replace.
This post was edited on 9/23/23 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 9/23/23 at 2:40 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Wonder if Warren Sapp coming to CO could be Deions replacement when he goes to NFL with his kids.
Similar personality and well known black athlete as HC
Similar personality and well known black athlete as HC
Posted on 9/23/23 at 10:32 pm to QJenk
quote:Hofers( with a little personality) like Manning, Ray Lewis, Moss , Strahan , Brady, etc....can certainly have success, but the issue is most of these guys have other things going on . Uninterested in coaching especially at the amateur level. Coaching has been taken over by those who didn't have enough talent to advance as professional athletes.
Not everyone can do what Deion has done. For reference, legendary Tennessee Titans runningback is coaching FCS team Tennessee State Universit
It's insulting to believe these guys can't be successful coaches . Young players ( especially at their positions) would love to play for them.
Posted on 9/23/23 at 11:09 pm to Downeast12
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For every Deion, there’s 20 other former NFL players who can’t even win at the HS level.
There are a thpusand high school football games every Friday night in which Andy Reid and Bill Belichick together wouldn't change the outcome.
Sean Payton won a Super Bowl and got his arse kicked in Pop Warner by a bunch of mean little frickers called the Orange Porcupines.
No matter the level, winning starts with players. Put a big name guy at a high school where he can recruit or draw players, he will have a good chance to win. Put him somewhere landlocked where he has to play with what he inherits - and it ain't much - he won't do anything special.
Deion is doing well because the nature of college football right now allows a coach to completely overhaul his roster with a nationwide recruiting strategy.
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