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Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?
Posted by CaptAndrewLuck


Deion Sanders is obviously the blueprint for this. Will more schools try to mimic this model going forward?
Basically find an ex NFL star and get donors to buy in and raise a bunch of money to pay top players to coke to the school. Schools may not need the best “coach” in terms of football coaching acumen. Sure you need to know something. But are some teams are going to be less concerned than before about finding the next Saban and instead try to find the next Sanders.
Basically find an ex NFL star and get donors to buy in and raise a bunch of money to pay top players to coke to the school. Schools may not need the best “coach” in terms of football coaching acumen. Sure you need to know something. But are some teams are going to be less concerned than before about finding the next Saban and instead try to find the next Sanders.
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by jlovel7
on 9/23/23 at 8:20 am to CaptAndrewLuck

Well let’s let them beat some good teams before we anoint this model a success
And I have been wondering the same thing FWIW
And I have been wondering the same thing FWIW
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Hogssmellgood
on 9/23/23 at 8:28 am to jlovel7

I also think it’s going to be very difficult to replicate what he’s done. Deion is 1 of 1 in this situation when it comes to fame, branding, etc. you aren’t going to hire someone like him because there is nobody else like him in that profession. And Even if he goes like 2-6 the rest of the way, he has shown that he’s much more as a coach than the things I listed earlier. The fact that he has gotten a team of 80+ new guys to play this well together is impressive. Not many other coaches are going to be able to do that. He also knows enough to hire two really good coordinators and let them do their thing. Teams are for sure going to try and replicate this, but they probably won’t be as successful.
This post was edited on 9/23 at 8:30 am
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by tiggerthetooth
on 9/23/23 at 8:30 am to CaptAndrewLuck

No. We don't even know the end to Deion yet. How will Deion fare once his son is gone?
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Downeast12 on 9/23/23 at 8:34 am to CaptAndrewLuck
For every Deion, there’s 20 other former NFL players who can’t even win at the HS level.
Only a few players would have the pop culture impact Deion has, and those guys probably have no interest in coaching college football. I bet Deion would never have done it if it wasn’t for his sons.
Only a few players would have the pop culture impact Deion has, and those guys probably have no interest in coaching college football. I bet Deion would never have done it if it wasn’t for his sons.
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Klingler7
on 9/23/23 at 8:35 am to CaptAndrewLuck

It’s all about selling the program. Deion has quality assistant coaches. Prime is no dummy. He says all of the right things about His program and his opponents. He loves God and wants to promote closeness to his players like a father figure. He appeals to young kids who want to feel cared for. That’s exactly what a coach should do. Hell…I am 55 years old and I would like to be around Prime for a month or two. Sanders personality is infectious.
In the end, it’s about making plays on the field and can Colorado build a roster like an Ohio state or Alabama or Georgia ? That’s the Prime question.
In the end, it’s about making plays on the field and can Colorado build a roster like an Ohio state or Alabama or Georgia ? That’s the Prime question.
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by AtlantaLSUfan
on 9/23/23 at 8:42 am to CaptAndrewLuck

You may want to google Herm Edwards.
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Jcorye1 on 9/23/23 at 8:49 am to CaptAndrewLuck
So Herm Edwards?
I'd be very interested to see if Mike Vrabel could work at Ohio State. Dude is a leader of men, has great defensive coaching skills, but I seriously doubt he could coddle enough to be a good recruiter.
I'd be very interested to see if Mike Vrabel could work at Ohio State. Dude is a leader of men, has great defensive coaching skills, but I seriously doubt he could coddle enough to be a good recruiter.
This post was edited on 9/23 at 8:52 am
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by kciDAtaE on 9/23/23 at 8:50 am to CaptAndrewLuck
Saying Deion is a blueprint for this model is like saying Brady is the blueprint for drafting a 6th rd QB to win titles…they are a 1-off
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Corso
on 9/23/23 at 8:53 am to CaptAndrewLuck


Let's see what Deion does today with Oregon and the rest of the season. Next year he'll lose his elite QB and almost certainly lose his elite OC who was the best offseason hire in college football. Definitely give Deion credit for that but he's going to have to find another one. One thing we know about even the best CFB coaches, when you start having to replace great coordinators it can get dicey if you don't make the right hire
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re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by tucoco
on 9/23/23 at 9:04 am to CaptAndrewLuck

quote:College coaching or a head coach in college I should say has really hardly little to do with the x and o's or acumen as you said, it much more deals with the overall managing or delegation of the program more than anything, they are basically a general manager. Someone like Prime is really great for that role because he knows how to handle people and finesse them into doing what he wants them to do with his great charisma and all. A college head coach wears many hats from managing as I said to being a charming recruiter with players and their parents, managing his staff to see that they're doing their jobs, managing the players and every issue that comes up with them, scheduling meetings all of the time with staff, boosters, players, fans, etc., and I can go and on, but you get it.
Schools may not need the best "coach" in terms of football coaching acumen. Sure you need to know something. But are some teams are going to be less concerned than before about finding the next Saban and instead try to find the next Sanders.
This post was edited on 9/23 at 9:08 am
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by ReauxlTide222
on 9/23/23 at 9:05 am to Jcorye1

quote:Dude, no kids give a shite about old arse Herm Edwards
So Herm Edwards?

re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Big4SALTbro
on 9/23/23 at 9:12 am to CaptAndrewLuck

Ed O had this model first be the figure head ceo. This works as long as you keep bringing good coaches onto the staff. Once the ceo like Miles or O starts to try to dictate style to the oc and dc it falls apart.
This method is nothing new. Hell dabo had made people think he is a great coach off it. The man is basically a wr coach and cheerleader. He is good at recruiting and overall team build. He had elite oc and dc that handled the schemes
This method is nothing new. Hell dabo had made people think he is a great coach off it. The man is basically a wr coach and cheerleader. He is good at recruiting and overall team build. He had elite oc and dc that handled the schemes
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by QJenk
on 9/23/23 at 9:24 am to CaptAndrewLuck

Not everyone can do what Deion has done. For reference, legendary Tennessee Titans runningback is coaching FCS team Tennessee State University. He's only in his 3rd year, but he hasn't had a winning season yet.
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Goldrush25
on 9/23/23 at 10:22 am to tiggerthetooth

quote:
No. We don't even know the end to Deion yet. How will Deion fare once his son is gone?
Get another top prospect with a similar skill set?

People didn't think Shadeur was much of anything because he was at JSU, now it's how do they replace him?

re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by tucoco
on 9/23/23 at 11:06 am to Goldrush25

And you're right about Shedeur. 

re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by The Easter Bunny
on 9/23/23 at 11:24 am to Big4SALTbro

quote:
Ed O had this model first be the figure head ceo. This works as long as you keep bringing good coaches onto the staff. Once the ceo like Miles or O starts to try to dictate style to the oc and dc it falls apart.
Wasn’t Larry Coker doing this 20 years before Coach O?
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by hammer5365
on 9/23/23 at 12:25 pm to The Easter Bunny

Our Bobby Bowden
re: Will we see a shift in the type of college coaches start to happen?Posted by Tigertown in ATL on 9/23/23 at 12:33 pm to CaptAndrewLuck
Used car salesman with pockets full of money?
Yes.
Yes.
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