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Why do white American athletes not seem up to par compared to European counterparts?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:46 pm
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:46 pm
I haven’t really worked this one out.
Look at the NBA. Most of the good white players are European. So it proves that white people absolutely can compete. But when it comes to white Americans, they’re mostly role players, and there’s fewer of them.
Look at soccer. There’s a ton of white soccer players around the world. The U.S. team just got spanked by a bunch of white guys from a small country. There’s a lot of white Americans who play soccer, but on the national team, most of the players are black, and they play the sport at a tiny rate comparatively.
So what gives? What is the white American athlete doing?
Look at the NBA. Most of the good white players are European. So it proves that white people absolutely can compete. But when it comes to white Americans, they’re mostly role players, and there’s fewer of them.
Look at soccer. There’s a ton of white soccer players around the world. The U.S. team just got spanked by a bunch of white guys from a small country. There’s a lot of white Americans who play soccer, but on the national team, most of the players are black, and they play the sport at a tiny rate comparatively.
So what gives? What is the white American athlete doing?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:48 pm to PrimeTime Money
You know why the white europeans look better than white Americans?
It's skill. Same for Soccer. You think Jokic and Luka are really athletic?
Their game is predicated on skill.
Watch US vs Belgium and notice the dribbling/handling of the 2 teams
It's skill. Same for Soccer. You think Jokic and Luka are really athletic?
Their game is predicated on skill.
Watch US vs Belgium and notice the dribbling/handling of the 2 teams
Posted on 7/8/26 at 8:50 pm to FlyingTigerBo
I understand that. Why is America not producing skilled players like the Europeans?
Why is there not an American Doncic or Jokic or Dirk, etc?
Why is there not an American Doncic or Jokic or Dirk, etc?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:00 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Why is there not an American Doncic or Jokic or Dirk, etc?
Because they grow up playing a European whiteboy version of basketball and not our street ball version. There is your answer. It's a different game. Our token white's grow up trying to match the brothas. Less focus on skill and more on out athleting your opponent.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:00 pm to FlyingTigerBo
quote:I would add that intelligence and knowledge of the game as it relates to the relevant sport are also contributing factors.
Their game is predicated on skill.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
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The U.S. team just got spanked by a bunch of white guys from a small country
You might want to go watch Belgium, France, and England when they play again. They have more black guys than the USA. The European teams with the most white guys (Scotland and Bosnia) sucked.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:03 pm to PrimeTime Money
They have the want to be good. Americanos have the want to be Stars/rich.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:07 pm to PrimeTime Money
the European basketball players are mediocre athletes. They're just great at basketball.
Brent Barry, Austin Reaves, Cooper Flagg, DiVincenzo all are/were better athletes than Luca and Jokic
Brent Barry, Austin Reaves, Cooper Flagg, DiVincenzo all are/were better athletes than Luca and Jokic
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:16 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
I read somewhere recently (maybe it was posted here idk) that europeans focus so much on practice/drills from an early age, whereas America has seemed to gravitate towards playing a maximum amount of games and less time for drilling to become more skilled. Think travel ball tournaments and AAU tournaments every weekend. Kids in the euro soccer academies are drilling and playing situations for hours per day starting pretty young. None of the american sports require that.
Maybe all that is BS but I could see that being a factor in why not one dude on our team has the touch or handle as a lot of guys on the teams that have advanced.
Maybe all that is BS but I could see that being a factor in why not one dude on our team has the touch or handle as a lot of guys on the teams that have advanced.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:21 pm to PrimeTime Money
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Look at the NBA. Most of the good white players are European. So it proves that white people absolutely can compete. But when it comes to white Americans, they’re mostly role players, and there’s fewer of them.
Cooper Flagg just basically repeated Luka doncic rookie stat line as a rookie for the same organization at the same age
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:27 pm to PrimeTime Money
I could be wrong, and please do corect me if i am, i do love to learn!, but, atleast i think i am thinking this through corectly, possibly, but not likely not, there is potentialy a language barier deeply rooted in this, what some my say, international issue, if not crisis?
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:29 pm to lsubatman1
Post a artical on the topic see we can further invesstigate
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:35 pm to PrimeTime Money
Soccer sucks.
Baseball, basketball, and football dominate in the US.
Baseball, basketball, and football dominate in the US.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:37 pm to mattz1122
I'd argue there are two different development models
The Euros focus on skill.
Americans focus on competing and winning.
So is it any surprise when it comes down to the very end that Euros are viewed as highly skilled but soft and weak, and American players are viewed as assassins with the killer instinct.
To answer the question about white American players, lack of opportunities. From the time they first started hooping a black player was picked ahead of them for a team because of "athletic upside". So white ballers try to compete with them in that area and play that game. That's how the game here is coached.
The Euros focus on skill.
Americans focus on competing and winning.
So is it any surprise when it comes down to the very end that Euros are viewed as highly skilled but soft and weak, and American players are viewed as assassins with the killer instinct.
To answer the question about white American players, lack of opportunities. From the time they first started hooping a black player was picked ahead of them for a team because of "athletic upside". So white ballers try to compete with them in that area and play that game. That's how the game here is coached.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 9:54 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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I read somewhere recently (maybe it was posted here idk) that europeans focus so much on practice/drills from an early age
They are drilled in fundamentals and repetition, playing off 2 feet, ambidexterity. We are drilled in more direct ways ( shooting form, dribble counters, spacing, transition etc)
The aussies have a pretty good developmental system for basketball that sort of mixes the American and euro styles.
This post was edited on 7/8/26 at 9:59 pm
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:08 pm to PrimeTime Money
Here’s a reason for basketball. The European game is more fundamental and cerebral where the American game is about speed, flash and athleticism. The Europeans are showing the fundamental game is just as affective as the athletic game.
Their youth programs - emphasize not just 3’s, but MID range jumpers, pump fakes, pump passes,ghost step, the illusions, along with ball control, free throws, etc. The mid range shot has been irrelevant in US basketball for 40 years. It’s a 3, a dunk, or inside the paint play.
Our fans want to see acrobatic, high flying, athletic plays. 2 points is 2 points in Europe.
White kids in the US see our style of play and what brings the oo’s and ahh’s in the crowd and say, “ok, I can’t do that”. Quit in middle school. They didn’t have a pure basketball fundamental’s coach to help overcome the lack of athleticism. Plus, I’m going to have to work twice as hard and I’m going to do that.
Larry Bird made a living playing “white boy” ball. J Will made it uncool to play “white boy” ball.
I think the pendulum is swinging back somewhat in basketball, and that’s completely due to the Euro style of play.
Don’t get me wrong, black basketball players will always dominate the sport. Only a fool would argue. I think we all like to watch someone make crazy, athletic plays that we know 99% of the population couldn’t pull off. It’s like watching Superman.
Europe took our old 1950-1980 basketball coaching and fundamental books and applied it to their game.
Our coaching system don’t need to rely on the fundamentals, the illusions, the fakes, the simplicity of just shooting a ball into a basket. We rely on our players overall athleticism for a competitive advantage. White kids can’t/won’t thrive in that system.
Their youth programs - emphasize not just 3’s, but MID range jumpers, pump fakes, pump passes,ghost step, the illusions, along with ball control, free throws, etc. The mid range shot has been irrelevant in US basketball for 40 years. It’s a 3, a dunk, or inside the paint play.
Our fans want to see acrobatic, high flying, athletic plays. 2 points is 2 points in Europe.
White kids in the US see our style of play and what brings the oo’s and ahh’s in the crowd and say, “ok, I can’t do that”. Quit in middle school. They didn’t have a pure basketball fundamental’s coach to help overcome the lack of athleticism. Plus, I’m going to have to work twice as hard and I’m going to do that.
Larry Bird made a living playing “white boy” ball. J Will made it uncool to play “white boy” ball.
I think the pendulum is swinging back somewhat in basketball, and that’s completely due to the Euro style of play.
Don’t get me wrong, black basketball players will always dominate the sport. Only a fool would argue. I think we all like to watch someone make crazy, athletic plays that we know 99% of the population couldn’t pull off. It’s like watching Superman.
Europe took our old 1950-1980 basketball coaching and fundamental books and applied it to their game.
Our coaching system don’t need to rely on the fundamentals, the illusions, the fakes, the simplicity of just shooting a ball into a basket. We rely on our players overall athleticism for a competitive advantage. White kids can’t/won’t thrive in that system.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:16 pm to PrimeTime Money
Uh I think our best white athletes play baseball and football.
Posted on 7/8/26 at 10:21 pm to GoldenSombrero
Yes and video games or don't play sports.
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