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re: Why do white American athletes not seem up to par compared to European counterparts?

Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:47 pm to
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14409 posts
Posted on 7/8/26 at 11:47 pm to
Not to sound too much like a boomer but watch AAU highlights then watch Euroleague highlights and see where you see more fundamentals.
Posted by SenorJuan
NYC
Member since May 2026
34 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:06 am to
Hate the guy, but respect him as an athlete: LeBron James.

We can dominate any one sport if our melting block of cultures could sink up on one sport like the EU & Middle/South America.

I’m nailing a girl whose parents are from Panama. We had a heated debate about how many Haarlads (sp) are sandwiched underneath better athletes in sports like football and basketball, but would succeed in US soccer.
Posted by Ron McKelvey
Member since Jul 2026
15 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:12 am to
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You might want to go watch Belgium, France, and England when they play again. They have more black guys than the USA. The European teams with the most white guys (Scotland and Bosnia) sucked.
US is less white then everyone you mentioned. In 2014 and before US was mostly white. Spain and Norway are still in and mostly white guys.
Posted by SDtiger16
San Diego
Member since Oct 2012
655 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 12:15 am to
Spain is the best European team and has 2/26 players that are black.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61545 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 2:50 am to
European sports are set up differently. They send their kids to train like pros early and their youth sports aren't run like American youth sports that are more designed to drain your wallet than they are to actually teach your kid proper fundamentals.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31661 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 3:19 am to
The best white American athletes are playing football and baseball. Guys like George Kittle, Dylan Ctrews, and Bobby Witt Jr are just as good athletically as any white Euro.
Posted by Sus-Scrofa
Member since Feb 2013
11327 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:15 am to
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Because they grow up playing a European whiteboy version of basketball and not our street ball version. There is your answer. It's a different game. Our token white's grow up trying to match the brothas. Less focus on skill and more on out athleting your opponent.


More or less something like that. I read an article once that talked about the original Dream Team’s impact on basketball in Europe that talked about this.

The Dream Team lit the spark and European countries started really developing their basketball programs. Their basketball programs are run like their soccer programs: start developing their skills early and get their basketball fundamentals engrained.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
18506 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 4:23 am to
Danny Woodhead could've been the GOAT american soccer player.
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28095 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 5:46 am to
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You might want to go watch Belgium, France, and England when they play again. They have more black guys than the USA. The European teams with the most white guys (Scotland and Bosnia) sucked.
7 out of the 11 starters for Belgium were white.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64493 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 5:59 am to
Its just the technical ability. Europeans obsess over soccer at a young age and the entire youth system harnesses this.

Americans are obsessed with raw talent like sprint speed, agility, and other pure athletic traits and completely ignore how much deeper the skill/technical level goes.

After a certain level of athleticism, soccer becomes a matter of technical ability and teamwork believe or not.

Basketball is a hard sport to compare based purely on the fact that it's so star oriented.

Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
Member since Nov 2012
28095 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:07 am to
I mean, that’s kind of what I’m getting at. The Europeans do a way better job developing their athletes.

Their model for developing talent is way better than ours. We should be better than we are at all sports.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
9220 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:21 am to
This is the difference. It comes down to the youth academies. Everything in the youth soccer system is Europe is about development, that is the single goal. The US youth soccer system is mostly about competition and winning, as early and as often as possible.


It produces less competence on the soccer pitch… but more competence in life
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27951 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 6:22 am to
Its cheaper to get on a field or in a gym and drill skills all day, but then you can't sell roster spots for $5,000 per player to go play in the world series every other weekend.

Euros treat sports like a job with the goal being to get better all the way up to the pros. Americans treat it as a competition where the ultimate goal is to beat the dad that lives in the next town over this week.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
36250 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 8:57 am to
Soccer and basketball are poor ghetto sports. There are many more poor ghetto whites in Europe.

They are both a "way out"

In the United States, basketball is a black sport and soccer is a rich sport.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
5715 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:11 am to
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Because we have so many sports.



We also have a broad population that can support multiple sports. The US just got worked by Belgium. Belgium has a population less than the state of North Carolina. There are around 450,000 registered players in their country and 14.5 million registered players in the US.

It's a development problem, not an issue of a crowded sports landscape.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
9948 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:23 am to
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I’m nailing a girl whose parents are from Panama.


Congrats on the sex? lmao
Posted by CR4090
Member since Apr 2023
10129 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:52 am to
Because the best white Americans don't give a shite about soccer. The same way the best white euros don't give a shite about American sports.

You soccer bitches are some whiny punts.
Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26463 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:57 am to
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It's a development problem, not an issue of a crowded sports landsca
Exactly, most of these European professionals were in academies before they were 10 years old, going to school in between trainings every day of the week. And we think practicing 2-3x per week and playing some games on the weekend can compare to that. Those players are getting 3-5x more touches per day than American players.
Same reason the Venezuelans and Dominicans are so successful in baseball.
Posted by JimTiger72
LA
Member since Jun 2023
19695 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 9:58 am to
This is so dumb.

You’re only using soccer & basketball and ignoring football & baseball (the 2 more popular sports for white American athletes)
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
30227 posts
Posted on 7/9/26 at 10:40 am to
The Lakers have decided that an all white lineup can win
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